Dan Henry - How To Think App, Crypto, and NFT's

SPEAKER_00 0:04

This is the Beyond the Story Podcast, a show that goes way beyond the story. And now, Sebastian Bro. Dan Henry, welcome back to the show, dude. Hey man, how you doing? Great, brother. So great to connect with you again. I uh been following you since the last time I had you on. I think that's when the book dropped. In the thick of COVID, when we were kind of going, we really don't know what's gonna go on here. It was like I think April or May of 2020.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Yeah, it didn't matter what was going on, it was gonna go on. You have to you have to persevere regardless.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

So this is correct. It was a great year for podcasting, to say the least. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Good year for a lot of people, bad year for for some others, you know.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Correct. Absolutely. All all all perspective. So we've stayed in touch since then and had a few conversations on Instagram and uh you had put out, I don't know, several months ago that you were working on our new app, a new project. You are adamant about helping people change the way they think or learn how to think, and you had an idea to launch an app, and that's become a reality. But uh you would reach out to your community and said, Hey, listen, if you think you have something intelligent to talk about on this app, I'd love to have you be part of it. And I inquired about it, and uh here we are.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

So uh the Yeah, yeah, you've got uh you've got a uh I've actually I just saw that uh some people uh got in your uh course on the app uh just just today. I saw a bunch of people logging in and taking your course on the app. So yeah, yeah, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

It was fun to uh like press play on the first lesson.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

Of course, man, of course.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

So uh well at the time we're recording this, it's Black Friday week on here. So when I when I when I'm talking about the Black Friday special you ran was absolutely genius, uh, with your oh yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, Santa outfit and you and Alice absolutely knocked it out of the park. And uh our boy Joey Yak, I'm like, I know those, I know that those vocal cords from somewhere on here with uh so he did the uh he did the book and close uh song as well.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

And um that that did really, really great. Uh and then he did uh he did this one and we filmed we filmed that whole music video in a day, and then we edited it the next day and launched it for Black Friday. It's done very, very well. Um, we have a ton of people signing up for the app. Uh it's it's definitely doing well.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Good, good, good, good. Yeah, he said that we were chatting. We I that actually that conversation on the post when I'm like, this sounds like Joey, because I heard him perform in in Dallas a couple weeks ago. It's Duman's event, and uh I didn't get a chance to meet him, but I'm like, man, that voice sounds familiar. So I had tagged him and he's like, you know, it's so we ended up on a call, uh, which was funny because you know the internet's bringing every bringing folks together here, but he said, you know, it was actually one of the easiest projects that he had to work on. It just it just went, you know, it just kind of flipped. Which one?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

The the Black Friday one or the boats, boats and okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

How is the boat by the way? I haven't seen, I mean, it's it's getting a little chilly out here in Florida, but so okay, so check it out, right?

SPEAKER_02 3:16

You're gonna think I'm nuts. Um I uh I haven't told anybody this. When is this launching like soon?

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah, this podcast. Yeah, it probably will, probably next week.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

So I haven't told anybody this. I was gonna make a YouTube video on it, but um I uh I just sold my boat really to buy to buy NFTs.

unknown 3:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

You heard it first.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Yes, so so so so so check it out. Um what happened was uh, and this is why I say you're gonna think I'm crazy, right? So what happened was uh I bought the boat and everything was going really, really well. Like you know how they say, oh, a boat happiest. Right. Yeah, it's a two million dollar boat. So when they say it is a boat that you or it's a hole in the water in which you throw money, that's a two million dollar hole. I mean, it's it's a lot. I mean, the maintenance on that boat's about 20 grand a month.

unknown 4:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Um, so what happened was the way that I did it was when I bought it, you know, I had it all set up to be a business to make not just not just pay for the boat, but make a profit. Sure. So the first few months that um I owned it, it all were like my whole plan, everything worked out. And uh we did like 200 grand in profit. That's after maintenance, that's after the crew. Like that's unheard of. My broker and my captain were both like, this has never happened in the history of yachts. Like, I don't understand how you're doing this. And it was because I was doing private consulting. I was we were chartering it, but I was doing private consulting where you got to come on um the boat with me and and basically go hang out and get have me take a look at your company and all that. And it was like 20 grand a pop. And I was just booking them like day after day after day after day. And I I it was cool. I got to go like hang out on my boat and do fun stuff and talk about business, which I like. So it was just it was crushing. Well, then COVID hit, okay. And all of a sudden, everybody can't travel and this and that, and it just like really put a damper on that whole thing. And then I was like, well, all right, I'll send it over to the Bahamas and I will just do a normal everyday charter operation. Um, so I sent it over there, and again, with COVID, it it it you know put a damper on on even that. Well, what I learned about the yachting industry, have you ever seen that show? Um uh below deck, yeah. Okay, that show is not even remotely an exaggeration. Right, that show is accurate. The entire yachting industry is just a bunch of degenerate drunk kids. I'm not even kidding you, dude. It was the most unprofessional, disorganized, everybody, everybody involved in the whole thing, like all the brokers, all the charter companies, like virtually everybody that touched that industry was a cluster, you know what. Like just horrible. And there was, I'm not gonna get into it, but there was a lot of problems that and issues and errors and things that I would never tolerate in in a standard company. And I was, I was thinking about it. And then, you know, I looked at the past, you know, fast forward to today, I looked at what I've been doing recently in in not just in business, but in the crypto space, and just been absolutely crushing it in the crypto space. Um, and the reason I've been crushing it is because I have large bags. Bags mean like I have a lot of capital to play with. Whereas most people they don't they don't have that. I'm blessed to have that. So I can make big plays and and do big things. And so I was like, this is stupid. I've got this boat sitting here that uh is is like all these negatives, right? Uh, you know, it's like 20 grand a month in maintenance. I'm like, I should just sell this thing, take the proceeds and invest it into more crypto and just continue crushing it there. And then I can freaking go out on uh I can just rent a yacht whenever I want to go out. Sure, you know, and then keep in mind, I mean, I I I know that a bunch of people go, oh Dan, we told you that before. Yeah, you told me that before uh COVID happened, and it was all working out. And then when COVID hit, that change. So, like I think I even made a joke. I said, Barring some crazy world-changing event, I'm gonna be able to profit off this boat. And then what happened? A crazy world-changing event. So, so whatever. But um, I uh uh so I literally just closed on it like two days ago. So uh yeah, yeah. And it was just exist.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

I mean, it's a short nobody thinks of a butt. I'm gonna go buy a uh a boat and have a short-term you know return on being able to do it.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Well, well, the beautiful thing was is is it it definitely increased my brand, you know. Um, and my I got a text from my broker. Um, because yachts are kind of scarce right now, um the most most yacht owners, right, they'll lose 20, 30 percent when they buy and sell a yacht. I mean, huge, huge loss. Uh I got a text from my broker and he was like, You are one of the very few who have lost less than 10% on a boat that you own. In fact, yours is under 3%. Wow. So yes, definitely time to get the hell out. Right, exactly. You know, and I'm just it just aligned, and I was like, you know what? I was like, let's do it. So uh, and I wanted out of that industry. I couldn't handle the the just lack of just the complete dude. It literally is like imagine like uh Paul, a bunch of Paul Hogans on a beat-up dock getting drunk and hanging out and doing business. That's the yachting industry. And you know, you know, I mean, not to throw shade, but it just it's not a very well-organized industry. The person that was the most organized, who is a rock star, was my broker. His name's Phil, and he was just an incredible dude, and he just handled so much of everything. But if I were ever to get back in that industry, I would not do any business with the uh the yacht, like you know, the the charter companies and the and the chart, they're just it's I would just do it all myself. In fact, I actually booked a bunch of private charters through my internet marketing skills. Um, and I was just like, man, there's somebody that could really come in here and shake that industry up and dominate it. Uh, but it's not gonna be me. I'm thinking I got other fish to prize.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Sure, absolutely. Well, I'm glad the uh the outcome was great there and you did well with it. I'm curious to see uh what NFTs you'll be going after for uh for for that for that next venture. It seems to be very speculatory right now.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

I mean, are you are are you are are you fishing for a for a trade tip?

SPEAKER_00 10:09

I mean if you're letting the cat out of the bag, uh sure. If not, well, time will tell, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:16

So so for me, um the here's what I'm investing in right now. And I I talk, I only talk about um I only really talk about crypto on my Twitter at Dan Henry86. And then I'm gonna start talking about it on my YouTube, which is uh just you know youtube.com slash Dan Henry. But um what I do mainly is I try to get in early on things, so I try to get into projects that are going to be blue chip. Like I don't care to make to trade PIDly, you know, half a ether trades. Like I get into stuff that has the potential to blow up. Like I invested a bunch into Solana-based NFTs, uh, because if Coinbase, not to make this a crypto podcast, but just think about this for a second. Coinbase is going to release an NFT marketplace. Uh, they have a three million person waiting list. There's only like 300,000 people on OpenSea. So when they open their marketplace, virtually everything is gonna go up because the it's it's like almost like heading towards mass market adoption. You're just gonna have more people trading and more people investing. Well, uh, that's great, and that's gonna pump everything, you know. Um, like I hold a crypto punk, which is the the ultimate blue chip of NFTs, it's the original NFT. That's it's like a Van Gogh in in NFTs. Uh, but but what's more is Solana is where Ethereum was a year ago. So if if Coinbase decides when they launch, there, I mean, obviously they're gonna launch Ethereum-based NFTs, but if they decide to launch Solana-based NFTs or when they eventually add them, the whole Solana marketplace is gonna go crazy. And so I bought, I just dump bags upon bags into potential blue chips in in Solana, and I only need to be right on one of them.

unknown 11:57

Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

You know, if I if I jump into 10 projects and only one of them is right and the rest go to hell, I still have like a you know 500 X, which if you take any real like this is the thing, is you know, the world moves on. I look at like real estate investors and these people, and I'm just like laughing because it's like they will work their butts off, they will literally work their butts off and and and make so many phone calls and talk to county and do paperwork and do all this stuff to make at the very best possible case scenario a 20% return in a year. In crypto, you can do that in a day, and you don't have to talk to anyone, you just press buttons. And I'm not this is not financial advice. I'm just saying that I just don't understand why anybody would take the time to learn anything else. But that's just that's just me, you know. I mean, some people love other types of investments. For me, I just love crypto because it's so it's like power back to the people, you know, like it gives the average dude, uh, the average person a chance to make stupid gains, and you don't have to know anybody, you don't have to talk to anybody. Smart contracts are smart contracts. The need for paper contracts and negotiations and lawyers is is gone. Like you don't even need it, you know, for smart contracts. The contract is a contract. And then you put you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry about it. But you know, uh to that goes to anybody listening. But it's just it's just a whole new world. And with like Facebook and the metaverse and all this, it's just the potential for a 100 or even 1000 X is huge right now if you get in early. But obviously, it takes a lot of research and time and and whatnot. So it's just something new for me to play around with.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

That's what I was gonna ask next. And you're not any stranger to figuring shit out. I mean, that's just you've built your you've built your entire brand and and and empire on figuring shit out. So is that what you did with the crypto in the NFT world that you just said, listen, I'm gonna figure this out, or was there people within your community that knew more than you did? Or because it's always I think it's a big question if Lobby's like, where you know, where the fuck do I start? I mean, there's I'm I'm starting a I'm starting an NFT podcast um uh in the next couple of weeks for that reason, for a selfish reason, because I I need to learn and understand how this is all gonna work.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

So I'm gonna be honest with you because I'm an honest guy, right? Uh, I have an advantage a lot of people don't have. I mean, I built an eight-figure business. I I have I do have the ability to pretty much reach out to virtually anyone in the space, say hello, and they'll talk to me. Right. Not everyone, but a large portion. Where and and that's just because I've I call it being a player, right? Like imagine if you were at a uh football game or something, and you were like an NFL player and a random fan ran on, ran up and and wanted to have a conversation with you, like ran onto the field, right? But imagine if like a player from another team happened to be there and walked on and said, Hey, how you doing? That's the difference between an actual conversation and getting escorted out by security. And so um the thing is, is just because I've been in the business world for so long, I'm able to have these conversations um and just get the information a lot quicker than most. And yes, of course, I've spent a ton of time researching, but my connections have helped me sort of uh accelerate that process. And then I've also bought into because you know, my thing is like trading NFTs and trading crypto and holding and selling is cool, but the big money is in building. Um, I'm working on my first uh NFT collection called Big Brains, and you know, I wanted to get into the best groups to learn how to really create an amazing project. So I I I dropped like, oh my gosh, like half a million dollars to get into uh Alex Becker's Neo Tokyo elite status. Um, so I'm in there and there's like CEOs of major coins and stuff in there, and you know, I I value connections and networking. I don't, it's funny, I don't like to network, um, especially in physical. Right. I like to network online, which is great because that's all what crypto is all about. But um I, you know, I heavily invested to get into that group to learn um and make connections and just learn at an accelerated rate. And it really comes back to investing in myself. That's what I've done. Uh that's what I've done my whole life. I mean, I invested probably half a million dollars overall into my own personal coaching and masterminds, and I turned that into nearly 30 million in business. And most, you know, some people they hem and haw over spending, you know, nine nine ninety-seven on a course, and and they're like, oh, I don't know, you know, and it's like, okay, great. You know, I mean, I've I mean, or should I join this mastermind or should I get coaching? And it, and it's like the thing is again, if I buy five coaching programs and four of them are crap, and one of them changes my life forever and my business, then that was worth it. And most people just don't think like that. They think, they think they have a poverty mindset, they have a survive scavenger mindset. They'll just hold on to any little morsel of food they have instead of going out and taking that piece of food they could have eaten and maybe planting it. I know that doesn't make any sense, but you get what I'm saying, right? Like, you know, so for me, it really just has been a constant, whether it's business, whether it's the the new app, whether I mean that's still business, but whether it's personal development, whether it's um uh uh crypto, I just continuously reinvest in myself and the gains are insane, they're just insane.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

So kind of like the the gain, the gym gains too. You've been getting those gym gains in too.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Yeah, I mean, I got a I hired a bodybuilder for a personal trainer, and I I've had pretty good gains there as well. Um, it's just the same thing, but thank you for mentioning that. I like it when people notice.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

I mean, you've been putting the shirtless Dan Henry picks have been scouring the internet for so I don't have any shirtless Dan Henry picks. I think they're like before no, I mean not like for promo stuff, but like your before and after and like gym picks. Maybe it's before maybe like no, it didn't last year or sooner again, motivating at that.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

I'm like I just Instagram making me get all into the shirtless culture.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Well, what those picks really do is they remind me that my Mr. Potato Head figure is still in full effect, and I but you know, I need to continue the you know, the the everyday uh let's go to the gym, everybody. Yeah, I mean listen, being fat's hard, going to the gym's hard. Choose your hard, right? Yeah, that's true. So uh let's talk about this new app. I uh slid into the DMs in response to one of your posts uh a few months back, a while back, actually, and beginning of this year, I think, and you said uh working on a new app called How to Think as well. People don't know how to think, and I want to do something about that. So if you have something you'd like to contribute to that, here's what I'm looking for. And I quickly said, Hey, I'd love to talk about how to start a podcast in 90 days or less. And you said, I like it. Here's a link, here's what I need from it. But uh uh let's chat about that for a second, how this whole thing came to fruition.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Yeah, so this is this is how this worked. Um, my first really successful company, get clients.com. Um, we grew that to, I think we're we're almost at or at 30 million. I don't, I don't every time I say a number once pass, I have to update it, you know. But uh, which is I'm blessed for that. But um that, you know, what we primarily sold there was, you know, high-ticket uh consulting and coaching. And we the return we got for our clients is amazing. I mean, I've had people invest uh anywhere from 10 to 100 grand in our coaching and turn it into like a million bucks in a very short amount of time. I've had clients come in and they were at like, you know, a hundred grand a month and now they're at a million a month. And then I've had clients come in at zero and now they're at, you know, 20, 30, 40, 50 grand a month uh within under six months. I mean, I've I've had a lot of success with that company just because I'm very addicted to learning how to explain things to people and learning how to um and I think the difference is that you know, most of these coaches, they they're only concerned about actually selling you a coaching program. So they're like, what do you want? It's it's this whole old method where it's like you build an audience, you ask them what they want, then you sell them what they want. And that's cool, you'll make money doing that. But I wanted to take it to the next level. The truth is I don't care what you want because if you knew what you wanted, you wouldn't have the problem. I want to know what you want as a result. So if you come to me and you say, I want to double my business, and I think the way to do that is X, Dan, teach me X. I say, Hey, that's cute, that's funny. Uh, if you knew it was X, you'd already be there. So we evaluate the client of what they really need, and then we give them what they really need, you know? Um, and and and that's the approach we've taken. More of a instead of viewing them as a customer, almost viewing them as like a player on a team and we're going to win the Super Bowl. And so when I took that approach, here's what I ended up finding out was that a lot of people that need business coaching or that think they need business coaching, and they do, ultimately, 95, and I've been on thousands of coaching calls, 95% of the uh of the questions I got were not actually business questions. They really came back to the mental game, they really came back to mindset. And I know everybody's like, oh, mindset. Here's the thing, I used to think that too, until I started sitting down at the table with eight-figure entrepreneurs. And you know what we all talk about? Mindset. Mindset. It's funny. It's like somebody who's broke thinks that, you know, that mindset is BS. Somebody who's at six or maybe even an early seven figures thinks that mindset might be BS. But people at like eight and nine figures know that it's everything. And as you go up, you you kind of realize that I just I think the problem is most people don't. Define mindset correctly. They think it's some motivational thing. I view it as high level of critical thinking. And so what I decided to do is like, all right, I'm already independently wealthy. This business is healthy. I developed a standard, uh collection of principles that it doesn't matter if you're in business, if you're a sports player, if you're an artist. It's really just things that make you different ways of thinking that make you successful and allow you to accomplish your goals. And I was like, I really want to give back and not have to charge people 10 or 50 or 100 grand for like high-end consulting, you know? So what I decided to do is create this app where uh, and we we started at right now, it's only seven bucks a month. Um, but but you get a daily like five to eight minute success mentoring sec uh session from me. It's an audio and it it downloads right to your how to think app. And you get that daily because I, you know, I believe that going to a um going to a a week-long seminar, jumping up and down, smiling, hugging people. I'm sorry, but I think that's BS. I don't think that's really gonna help you.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

It might help you in the just not sustainable, that's all.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

It's not sustainable. Well, yeah, it might help you in the moment, but you go home and a week later you're back to where you were. See, I believe in the law of marginal gains. Um, I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but there was this uh this team years ago. Uh, it was a British cycling team and they were horrible, right? They were the worst team in cycling. Well, they got a new coach, and the coach he did this very unorthodox thing. He just started improving things 1% at a time. Different helmets, different pillows that they slept on. He would expect he would go through five, 10, 15 different pillows just to see what gave him better sleep. Uh, different bike seats, uniform, like he would just improve 1% at a time. And over a few years, he ended up making them the most dominant force in cycling. They won five tour de Frances, they they dominated the Olympics. And it was all because he believed that marginally improving little by little is the key to success. And so that's what I based the app on was just five minutes a day. Everybody has five minutes a day, uh, success mentoring. And then we have an upgrade option where you get like an hour, hour and a half business mentoring session uh each week as well. And these are all audio. Um and the final thing is there's an explore section where you are on, my friend, uh, where there are additional courses that you can purchase um through with Think Coins. And what's really cool about Think Coins is that you can get them for free by referring more people to how to think with your referral link. And so you earn Think Coins for every person that you recommend that joins, and you can buy these programs and these courses um with the Think Coin. So it's this cool, like little little uh reward-based system that we set up. And we just launched it. Uh Soft launched it and did like a Black Friday special. And we have hundreds of users within a few days, and people are absolutely loving it. Uh, your course on there is popular. Um, and you know, it's just for me, it's just being able to help people, a lot of people, without having to charge them a lot of money, uh, and and give them some of the same lessons I've taught in the higher end masterminds and coaching that cost tens of thousands of dollars. So that's the reason I did it is I just want to help a lot of people and I I don't need to make more money. Like between my business and crypto and all that, there's really no need for me to make a ton of money off this, but we got to make some so that we can pay to grow the company. But sure, that's the app. So hopefully I covered the No, I did.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

And it's uh it's a it's a it's a new version. I mean, it's a it's like an upgraded version of Dan Henry. Not that there was a downgraded version at all, but before it was a lot of get the get client world because you were consumed in it, because that's really the business that that created your your initial yeah, internet marketing, coaching, selling online courses, which I still I mean, we still have a fantastic program.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

I have a team of coaches that works with my clients. I don't really do much coaching anymore. Uh my mastermind ends in six months. We're selling like a sort of a half off version of it for the remaining six months. But once that's done, I am personally going to just, I mean, honestly, you know, and I'll I'll tell you something funny. Um, do you know Derek Halpern?

SPEAKER_00 26:23

I don't.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

So he he started social triggers. He was a huge deal. He left the internet marketing world uh because he got fed up with it and he went and started a supplement company and he's doing great there. But uh he he we were talking the other day and he's like, Did you ever see that one post that blew up about you a couple months ago? And I was like, What post? And he just told me about it. Apparently, uh somebody, and I didn't even see it, I don't even know who wrote it, but somebody who was in one of my programs, I guess, or I don't even honestly I don't even know if they were in one of my programs, but um, I guess they made a post and they were like, Oh, you know, I used to respect this guy who uh built this big internet marketing business, and then but I don't respect him anymore because the past two months he's just been out on his yacht.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

I think it did so.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Uh oh, you did see something like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Something that we're like, no, I saw you chime in about it.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

You may have oh, I don't think I chimed in because if I did, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

No, not on the post, not not on the post. I remember seeing somebody like, you know, again, the the haters are always gonna come out of the state. Of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Well, well, no, but but but uh yeah, I don't care. But there's a there's a point to this, and that is this that, and this is a perspective thing, right? People will say, Dan or whoever, right? You know, Sebastian, teach me how to grow a business so I don't have to work much. I can go out and I can enjoy my life, I can spend time with family and I can live the life. But then they don't expect you to do that, right? They expect you to be a slave to and so when I go do it, it's a problem, but I'm gonna teach you to do it. That's incongruent. So, you know, for me, I've been grinding at this for like a solid five years, and I've been able to um, I bought my mother a house, I bought my father a house, I retired them. I pretty much did everything I could. We um I I I did my own charitable contributions, still continue to do like I I I checked every box financially for both myself, my family, things I cared about, to to the point where I there's not many boxes left unless I want to start doing weird stuff like going into space or something, but you know, um, which I don't I don't like flying, so I'm not doing that at all. But you know, so for me, at this point, I want to move on and enjoy more of my life and work on new projects. So I'm ending a lot of the coaching that I'm a part of to be able to go away for two months at a time and and and spend time with my son and my family, be able to work on new projects like this Big Brains NFT, like how to think, and and and all that. But the people in our program that's run by my team, they get just as good a result as they got back when I was more involved. So um yeah, I mean, that's where I'm at right now. It's just it's just a different kind of like it's just a different rest of you know, I'm looking at the rest of my life and looking at making some more decisions that make me happier and not just just grinding every day, which I think is what we all want, you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Sure. Well, I mean, it's that constant well you can't be free to explore and figure out what's next for you if you're constantly in the business every single day. And you have a system that works, then you've proven that it works and been able to duplicate that with your team of coaches. So you've been and then you said, okay, listen, now I'm out of the business, my coaches handle it, but if you still want to work with me, you can come on my boat for the day, it'll be this, and then and then the mastermind, etc. Right. And now it's like, no boat, no mastermind. Now you're just in straight creative mode and money-making mode where you're taking your money and putting it to work for your crazy ideas that you can take calculated risks with, like you said, you know, you can make 10 investments, and if only one hit that right, right.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

And not only that, man, but just self-discovery. And you know, when you're when you're grinding, you're trying to make you're trying to become rich or whatever, you don't really have a lot of time to look at yourself and go, what kind of person am I? Am I a good person? Am I a bad person? And I don't get into this crap, no, you're you're, you know, don't think that way. Like, no, some people are bad people, and that's not to me you don't have the potential to be better, you know. Um, I think there's a lot of things in my life I've made mistakes with and and I've been quote bad, and I'd like to fix that and and become a better version of myself. And so I've spent a lot of time on that and uh and trying to be like a nicer person. Because, you know, man, I tell you, the grind, it can make you a little cranky. You know, it can make you super cranky, especially when, you know, uh literally every day people are like, here's a bunch of money to get access to this program or this coaching, and then they don't listen, or they're like, Where's this? Where's that? Like, why don't you go look? Like, there's a lot of it, but I do it anyway because it's it's you know, I always say, if you don't like fire, don't be a fireman, you know. So I do it anyway because I like helping people out. Like, you gotta remember, man, I I delivered pizza for seven years, and it was the worst time in my life. I mean, I I remember one Christmas, I was um, I was actually thinking about some old stuff, you know. I remember one Christmas, uh my furnace went out and I had to go to Walmart and with my last little bit of money buy four radio radiator space heaters, make basically make a square and sleep in the middle of them um just to remain warm. It was negative 16 degrees, negative 52 with wind chill. I remember uh I just took my son to the carnival uh here in St. Pete, and I thought I I I I remembered that there was a time where my Yeah, well, I remember I forgot about this. I've never even told this, I don't think, but there was a time where I was a carney. I literally traveled around, I did airbrush tattoos, and I also had uh uh popcorn and um Italian ice. And I would go around, uh I wasn't a part of the carnival, I was what they call the independent circuit, where you know the carnival travels, and then there's a section of the carnival where you have independent vendors, and I was one of those, and I would travel with the with the carnival. I slept in an old like 1988 Chevy blazer, and I didn't have enough money for hotels, so I would go to these events, I would sleep in the blazer, and then I'd go to like a public shower and shower, or sometimes I wouldn't, and I would do that was like one of the yeah, and that was like one of the hardest times of my life. Sure. Um, you know, setting up a tent by myself in the dirt, and then like the wind blows and it knocks the tent over, and just it was like a really rough time. And uh just to see where I'm at now, you know, I want that for other people. Like I want that. And whether that's they've started a business and they need some high-end help from my team, whether that's joining how to think or hell, even if it's just getting involved. Like I plan on giving completely free crypto education on my like there's already tutorials on my Twitter. Uh, I'm gonna do them on my YouTube, I'm gonna do them in a Discord for my NFT. Like, I don't want to ever charge for crypto education. Like, I want to like, I just want to start like really giving more and more value out there because I just I don't want people like I can't stand the thought of somebody being in the situations I was in because it sucks. Right. It just sucks. And if you're willing to learn and you're willing to to to get out of that situation, I just I like being one of those people that can help you.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

I think that's where I really resonate with your story. And I remember the carnival story, and I think that was the title of the episode last time. Uh last year. Oh, didn't I tell you that one?

SPEAKER_02 33:48

You you have this weird thing. I always open up to you. You're like this uh it's the bald head, man. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Do I have a trustworthy face? Yeah, tell what it is. Um I think I titled the episode that. It was like From Carney to Internet Millionaire.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

I think you're the only person I've ever mentioned the carnival story to.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

That's fantastic. I mean, it's it's it remains the crazy part about when you share stories like that is that when I was I had a kid at 20, and when I was 19, I was a complete fucking degenerate, but I lived in um I lived in um Largo. That's right up the street from me. Yeah, it is. It sure is. So, and I worked uh for Hulk Hogan. Uh I his his wife at the time owned a um a little uh tea, like breakfast and like uh lunch spot uh in a little antique mall that's probably still there in Largo, and it was called the French Hen. And Terry would come in, Hulk, uh, with Macho Man and the big show, like all, and they would come in, they would eat half the kitchen. But um one of the days I went up to him and I said, uh, you know, he'd come in, he was the nicest guy ever. And I was coming on Tuesday after Monday Night Raw, and he's like, What's up, brother? And like I was so shocked that like he actually talked like he did. But a lot of my struggled years of time of like figuring life out. I didn't go to college, I'm a young kid, kind of not, you know, going anywhere. We're in Southwest Florida, uh, working for Hulk Hogan. And I asked him one day who washed all of his cars, and he said, You do, brother, be at my house at four o'clock today. And I had no car, so I asked the chef to drop me off. And he had a bad, I don't know if he still has the house, but he had a badass house in Clearwater, uh, right on the water, and like a fucking castle. Like he flew in the like I remember the roof was like from some French castle he'd brought in. But I'll never forget showing up that day and being dropped off by the by the uh by the chef in his Rust bucket, like 85 Civic. And I get there and I go down and one of his kids lets me in and and he's in his gym and he has his headband off. And that was for the first time I had seen bald Hulk. Um, but my mom, oddly enough, had come to visit and she went in the antique mall and found a lunch box, a Hulkamania lunch box. So I had brought it in and asked him to shine it. So as soon as I got to his house, he's like, I got your lunch pail, brother. Anyway, but it was funny that you you bring up these older stories, and I know it's kind of off topic on there, but I did live, you know, in in Southwest Florida then when I was trying to figure out I was scrubbing dishes. I was the well, I was the director of porcelain arts, but uh they they called me a dishwasher. That's awesome. But it's funny to reflect back on those times, and I think that you know, I always like to say that had those experiences not happened, would we really arrive you know where we're at present day? And I I honestly wake up every day and feel like I'm just getting started. Um, but even if those, you know, you reach that level of success, which you obviously had, you've had a phenomenal career so far and really, you know, if you've had this rags to riches story, you know, Dan Henry's got it. Um, but as we continue to evolve, especially with this mindset thing, we start to desire, you start to, and I love that you had the conversation of how can I become the best version of Dan? How can I continue to grow as a human being? Am I who? I mean, having those important conversations. But at the same time, how can I continue to give back? And with the internet, it makes it a lot easier where you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. You don't have to get in groups and coaching and calls and this, that, and the other. You're pushing buttons and being able to share your gifts uh that you've been able to learn. And I and I think that's important. I think because you eventually reach to a point where, like, okay, dude, you can buy whatever you want. You can go wherever you want. You got the toys, you got the assets, you got now what? I mean, there has to be a ceiling. And I know, especially with the people that you interact with these days, these, you know, these eight-figure earners and people that have found these levels of success. I'm sure that their mindset has to be, listen, it ain't about the money and the stuff. It's about, you know, how how can you become the best version of not only yourself as a human being, but in addition to that, what can you do to give back to the world to help contribute? Because of course, not everybody's gonna follow suit with that, but I think it's important to, you know, much is given, much is expected.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

I'll give you one example. You know how many people I've talked to who had something bad happen to them, they lost money in an investment or something, and their first reaction, 99% of them, I'm never doing that again. I'm never doing that again. And all they they they they they drip out this drama, you know. Like I've had people message me on social media and write me novels, and it's just pouring their heart out on one little thing that happened, you know, and I feel for those people because I've been through it. Yeah, but if you don't think you need mindset help, I mean, think about this like the mental, it's not just mindset, right? It's the mental game. Like both Tiger Woods, uh Oprah, uh, you know, uh Michael Jordan, um uh these people all say that their respective games is are 90% mental. And it's the same thing with business. So, like I'll give you an example. Um, I spread my investments out, right? But I re somewhat recently lost over a million dollars on a couple bad investments. Um, and they were traditional investments that most people call safe, okay? And that all these pencil pushers in their suit and ties, sitting at banks getting paid a hundred grand a year to give you investment advice, uh, what they would consider to be safe. And I lost it. And a lot of people in that position, I'm imagine one day you you you lose a million dollars, just like that, gone. And there's nothing you can do, there's no recourse, right? Everything you did, you thought you did right, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It wasn't like super high risk, you know. And um you lose this money and you say, I'm never investing. Most people say, I'm never investing again, I'm never investing again. I'm I'm this was terrible, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. I immediately, um, and then again, I wouldn't have done this years ago. It's because I've been done, I've done a lot of mindset work over the years. I immediately said, okay, that didn't work out, but I didn't lose my life. I didn't, I I lost money, I didn't lose my ability to make money. And I went back out and, you know, I in crypto, uh, I made it all back in like a couple months. And if if I didn't have that go-getter attitude that it's okay, it's cool, it's just money. I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna make it back. I would not have even taken the actions to make it back, and then I really would have lost a million dollars.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Sure, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

You know, and that's why people don't, what people don't understand. There, there's there's they look at mindset and they think about it in terms of like these gurus that have these events and these motivational speeches. And yeah, that's all cool. Like I like motivational speeches, but it's uh it's more honestly just critical thinking and reframing the lens in which you see things and how you process information. It's a lot more practical than most people make it out to be. And uh, you know, I I remember hearing this thing one time. Um, I don't know if you listen to Jordan Peterson. Um I don't. He's well, he regardless of your political views on him, he's a very smart dude. He's he's uh and he's a very skilled psych. I think he's like a psychologist. Um, but anyway, the point is is that he he made this um this he said this thing that that really stuck with me. He said that um we have thousands of years of human evolution, and that is uh our minds processing information and solving problems. And you gotta think, right? Like at the end of the day, what is a strong mindset? It's your ability to solve problems. That's it. If you can solve problems, you can have the the world as your oyster, right? So he basically says that human, like all human beings by this point in our history, there's there's been like there's six billion people on the planet, but over through throughout history, there's 10, there's been like a lot more than that, you know? Uh and basically what he said was that these problems, our minds continuously solving problems now are deeply locked. Though that potential, that problem-solving ability is deeply locked in all of our brains. It's it's present and it can be accessed. But in order to access it, new neural pathways have to be formed to unlock that potential. So we all have incredible potential beyond our wildest dreams, but we have to build the neural pathways in order to access this information. Well, what builds those neural pathways? Pushing yourself beyond your limits. When you push yourself, when you get uncomfortable, when you push yourself mentally beyond what you find comfortable, those new neural pathways form and it unlocks that potential. That's why you will see entrepreneurs and people who have achieved great things, they continuously push themselves because the more they push themselves, the more they unlock this ability to be able to deal with things and make awesome things happen and achieve their true potential. But most people, most humans, they thrive to seek pleasure and avoid pain. And so they don't like to push themselves. Like, how many times have you think, well, I don't want to do this? It's so overwhelming. Well, overwhelm is a sign of growth. I mean, go imagine going to the gym and not feeling sore. You would think I didn't have a good workout. Well, imagine trying to learn something and not feeling overwhelmed. It's the same thing. If you feel overwhelmed, that's good. But most people, they take that overwhelm and they mean it as a sign to stop, to slow down. Just take it easy, take it slow. No, that's what people who love their little safe place say. They want to stay in their safe little place where they can't risk anything and they can't grow because it's safe. Um, and so I like to encourage people to push themselves beyond what they believe is possible so that they can unlock the parts of their brain and their mind that allow it to be possible.

SPEAKER_00 43:55

Yeah, I think about that a lot at the gym, speaking of that, because it's the least favorite part of my day. It's my least favorite activity to do, but why is that? It's just not exciting to wake up and go, let's everything's heavy there, Dan. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But you know what? My my my my my best friend tells me often, uh, really sharp guy is an attorney, and he says, uh, you know, you know what? He calls me Rusk. He goes, you know what, Rusk? Being fat's hard. Going to the gym's hard. And I and I and I kind of agree with that. I mean, you can't, that's tough to and the payoff of the gym makes everything worth it. I do think about that when I'm like, I don't want to go. Ooh, I like that feeling. So, but I get there, I get through the workout, and then the steam room is a big challenge for me. Like getting past 10 minutes, it gets real shaky and real like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. And I force myself to stay an extra like three minutes, and now I'm up to like 15 minutes being able to like.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

Do you drink water while you're in the steam room?

SPEAKER_00 44:54

I don't.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

That's the key. You you bring water in there and drink it because you as you sweat it out, you're intaking it and you're cleaning your cells. So you see what I'm saying? If you don't drink water, you're not gonna be able to, yeah. You can you can stand there for an hour and drink water.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Ah, all right, good. Good that's good intel right there. Instead of getting annoyed with the asshole next to me chugging water, I should probably just bring my water and join into that.

SPEAKER_02 45:16

Well, see, I've always learned I don't like goal setting, I don't like goals. Goals to me are silly because if you say to yourself, I'm gonna go to the gym because I want to get jacked, I don't want to be fat, then when you get there, you look at everybody else who's jacked and you think, Oh, I'm not jacked. Right. Oh, I'm not, I'm not, I don't belong. And then you get all these little feelings and then you don't want to go. But if you instead of saying, I want to go to the gym because I want to get jacked, if you instead tell yourself, I want to fall, you know, fall in love with working out. Right. Just love the process of working out, then you'll get jacked as a byproduct, but you won't be there to get jacked, you'd be there because you love working out. So, for instance, if you don't like lifting weights, I mean, maybe, maybe try jujitsu, man. I mean, my cardio is 100% jujitsu. That's where I get all my kind. I love jujitsu. And it's a great fat guy sport.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

I mean, I don't like to get hit. I don't, I mean, this is you don't get hit in jujitsu.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

All right, it's great, it's wrestling, it's basically wrestling with uh with let me explain something. It's it's a kind of wrestling. And then if you if you listen to jujitsu if you've heard jujitsu play, you're gonna hate me for saying that. I'm just saying it for Sebastian here so that he can better understand it.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

But let me let me explain something to you. I put my fucking socks away and I scratch my finger. Okay, I open Tupperware and I have some way of being able to maybe maybe that's what I need to do.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Maybe I just need to, you know, I need to just you sound like a perfect fit for like some trendy uh uh stuff like CrossFit.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

You should do cross. I was thinking about I'll get a karate outfit and do my best Daniel son. I mean, if we don't video talk about viral content. Me being in a ju I can't even fucking pronounce it. Jiu Jiu Jitsu Jiu Jitsu, that's like jujitsu. Jiu Jitsu class is uh would be uh would be cure pure comedy. I know a couple buddies that would love to to go out and do a little grappling on here.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Well, dude, man, you could like just tie a stick to your back, put a sandwich with a string.

SPEAKER_00 47:02

I'm a fucking ninja turtle, yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. Well, dude, I love what you're up to, man. Even the short you know, 12 months it's been or so plus since I had last had you on the show. Uh you were in full-blown book mode then. This was pre uh boat and really crypto and this and your new conversation and new ventures on what you're up to. But I'm totally digging it. I love I absolutely love the app. I love it. I get 900 notifications a day from the app to remind you.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

No, no, no, that was that. Yeah, that was a bug, I know what that is. That was a bug. We were fixing something and it accidentally sent out a bunch of notifications. Oh, we just launched. You gotta, you gotta the app, the app side of things sometimes we gotta fix stuff, you know, it's just part of launching a new app. But the content side. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Um, very well laid, very, very well laid out. And we're as we're as we enter into this, you know, continue, not enter, we're already in it, but we continue in this audio era, it just makes perfect sense to be able to have a solution like this, audio based. Uh, you and I have had a lot of offline conversations about your podcast and what you want to do with your content and how it all goes. So it's it's great to see you've got this solution on here. It's a paid solution. If what you say is true as far as wanting to consume Dan Henry's content, well, then you're willing to cough up seven bucks a month or you want a little bit more access, it's fifty bucks a month.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

I have a I've a I have a podcast as well. You're gonna be on it. It's uh how to think with Dan Henry. Let's go. Which uh uh you're gonna be on. And uh we that's you know, I like doing that.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

So you talked a little bit, but you were you were you were gonna maybe put a paywall up against that that uh but I think the app now that no, that's just gonna be that's it's on iTunes right now.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

It's um we just yeah, we we we we've had some pretty awesome guests on. Uh we had uh Tony Robbins number one sales speaker on, uh Eli Wilde. We had uh Chad Holmes' daughter, Amanda Holmes on.

SPEAKER_00 48:47

Yeah, I was just with her in San Diego. She's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

Yeah, I had my buddy um Eric Taws on, who built a 66 million dollar company selling personalized jewelry out of this little warehouse down here in St. Pete. Um and we just great conversations. And we interview as well as I have some regular suspects or usual suspects that come on and we just sit around and chat about you know entrepreneurship, mindset, success, stuff like that. And we really dig into what makes successful people tick and think. And um, it's it's a great, it's a great podcast. I dig it.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

So yeah, no, I'm excited to uh make my way over, uh head over Alligator Alley over to St. Pete and spend some time with you next week, at least time uh at the time we're recording this episode. It's uh it's it's going to be next week. The app's called How to Think. There's gonna be a direct link to it in the show notes. That's the description of this podcast episode, in case you're wondering what in the world a show note is, as well as being able to connect with Dan on Twitter for a future tips, tricks, and tools on what he's up to in the world of.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

Well, I already have um my Twitter, I try to mainly talk about crypto. I already have a tutorial on there on how to um secure because most people they get their assets stolen, especially if they use MetaMask and crypto. And I have a whole thing on there on how to secure your assets uh where they, you know, they're they're like ultra secure um and 99%. I I know people that have seven figures in crypto that don't even know this. And and this is why people get it stolen. But I'm gonna be honest, one of the reasons why I want to start teaching people crypto is because there's this weird thing going on in the crypto world where if you don't know all the lingo, you're like shunned from the community. And a lot of there's a lot of newbies who want to get in and they have money to invest and they want to invest, but they don't know what, like they don't know what rugged means, they don't know what alpha means, they don't know what all these terms mean. And so they're kind of lost. And nobody's really providing education for this that that isn't like in the cool kids club. So for me, I want to put stuff out there that's like, hey, guess what? You're new to crypto, you don't know any of these terms, don't worry about it. I'm gonna say it to you in plain English so you can actually understand it. And I don't care if you don't know the terms, I don't know most of the terms, and I still make bank with it. So um, that's kind of like I have a I have a special place in my heart for people who don't know all that stuff and they still want to learn and they still want to invest. Because at the end of the day, mass market adoption brings all of our holdings to a uh higher valuation. So why wouldn't why why would you shun people? You know, and so I'm just taking the opposite approach. So I'll give you all my links to leave in the show notes.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Absolutely. Everything you need to know to get in touch with Dan, stay in touch with him, consume his content, download the app, uh, etc. Will be available uh in the show notes. And stay tuned. I look forward to being a guest on how to think it's dance podcast, too. That link will be in the show notes too, on there. Dan, always a pleasure to hang out with you, brother. Look forward to uh our time next week in St. Pete. I haven't been to St. Pete forever, man. So little little mini vacay. It's all work, it's work related. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

Well, I mean, it's the greatest city on in the United States, especially now. You know, right, right. Now we definitely have that title, you know. So, but uh you can you can actually like live your life here. It's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 51:54

Well, apparently you can here in Miami with the mass exodus of uh I don't know where these people are showing up from, but uh holy jumping Hannah.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

This place is yeah, I I I try to limit my exposure to Miami, but I do I do go down there quite quite.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

I saw you guys had a good time, but you stayed up and you stayed at the Hard Rock, which is out of this madness of Miami Beach.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Well, we stayed at the Hard Rock and then we stayed at the one hotel.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Well, that that's out of your that's you're getting out of South Beach ish. That's a that's the better part of Miami Beach. So that's a great, beautiful spot. That rooftop's fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

I gotta go to the bad part.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

Well, I know people think, oh, I'm coming to South Beach. I'm like, you don't want to go to South Beach. Like, there's nothing good going on on South Beach. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:32

Yeah. I like I like visiting Miami. I could not live in Miami. It's a little crazy. It's too intense. It is very intense. I give it to I give I give you props. Hollywood would be nice, though. I like Hollywood.

SPEAKER_00 52:41

Hollywood is nice. Hollywood is is is very nice. Well, once you cross the Dade Broward line, it's a whole different ballgame than this madness down here.

SPEAKER_02 52:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Cool, man.

SPEAKER_02 52:50

It was nice coming on.

SPEAKER_00 52:51

Yeah, it was great to have you again. And uh thanks for your time, brother. I appreciate it, man. And I will uh I'll see you next week. All right, man. See you until next time, friends. Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of the Beyond the Story Podcast. Be sure to appreciate it. If you haven't done so already, make sure you're subscribed to the show. This way you'll get updates as new episodes become available. If you feel so inclined, please leave us a review. We sure do appreciate it. Signing off from the podcast, launchlab.com studios. We'll talk to you next time.