Living Sober Out Loud: Finding Presence After Alcohol with Mallorie Nuttall

Sebastian Rusk 0:04

Every business, book, and comeback has a moment nobody sees. This is Beyond the Story. The conversation behind what people build. We skip the highlight reel and go straight to what made them who they are.

unknown 0:18

And now please welcome to the stage, your MC for the event Sebastian. Rhino.

Sebastian Rusk 0:36

Hello friends, my guest this week is Mallorie Nuttall. I came across her Instagram a few months back, and the way that she shared her sobriety journey really caught my attention. One decision followed by another and an honest look at what changed along the way. So I wanted to sit down with her and talk about what choosing to be present for her own life actually looks like. And I'm so grateful that I didn't have the opportunity to connect with this absolute force in this world. I think you're really gonna enjoy this one. Let's dive in.

Mallorie Nuttall 1:07

Pause. It's the one thing I did on the river that day. If I would have just done what I've always done and just slipped into the habit, I would have said yes, grab me a bottle. Deal. And you keep repeating it. I paused. When was the last time you actually paused and asked, why are you doing the things in your life that are habitual?

Sebastian Rusk 1:31

Already, welcome to the show.

Mallorie Nuttall 1:33

Thank you for having me.

Sebastian Rusk 1:34

Hey, thanks for being here. And uh I just want to shout out to the internet for bringing us together. Bringing us together because I have no idea how we connected, but that Instagram algorithm, well, it does a thing or two. And um, we were chatting a little bit, well, a lot of it before the interview, and um I one of the first things I said to you was, I just absolutely love how you show up. And um, it's not about the framing of the video or how you look or your makeup or your hair or your whatever. It wasn't that. It was how you actually show up as a human and how you share your story and share what has worked for you, what hasn't worked for you, but also a very unique way of being able to encourage people that are consuming that content. So um I'm excited to get into this conversation. And I know uh it's 2026, the time we're recording this podcast episode. The word sobriety is a very popular buzz term these days. Alcohol sales are down, it's real hip to be sober, it's real hip to go to a nightclub first thing in the morning and do yoga and drink kombucha. Like it's it's a real, like it's this whole deal. So when I started to hear your story, your journey of sobriety and what it's done to impact your life, and you started you've really dissected in such a unique way. I said, I absolutely need to connect with this lady and have a conversation with her because um, as we've established right before the interview, you're totally my people. I don't know if I'm your people, but um, I think I am 100%. Um but uh let's jump into it here. Um the the podcast is called Beyond the Story. So obviously I tell people story here, but I always like to go back to the beginning of the story to really help uh give people context to what brought you to present day on where you're at. I I think I saw one of your very first videos and said, Hey, I've been uh I decided to get sober tw in about four years ago, 2022, I believe. And uh here's how I did it. And I didn't do it with AA and I didn't do it the traditional ways, and this is this may or may not be the way that you go do it, but I feel compelled to to share my story here. But let's back up to to to 2022 and the morning you woke up and you said, you know what, today is going to be different.

Mallorie Nuttall 3:55

Well, that is that is the interesting thing because when I woke up, I didn't know it was gonna be any different. This was I think the first time where when it came to alcohol, which I had tried to quit or remove from my life multiple times in the past. Multiple times. And yet the morning where I actually became my sobriety like date, I didn't know I was gonna quit alcohol that day. I had just gotten out of a bad breakup the night before. I was in the Pacific Northwest. My brother and sister were like, hey, let's go down to the river, decompress, you know, we've got you, whatever you need to do. And there was a moment where we were in the car, we were heading over there, we stopped at the store to get snacks, and they look at me, they're like, Hey, what do you want to drink? And for the first time in my life, I paused. I didn't say tequila, I didn't say yes, give me this, give me my favorite, you know. I didn't say what I normally said, I paused. And for the first time, what came out of my mouth was just no, I'm good. That was the first no. That was the first no that has now led to four years of sobriety. And so in that moment, I feel like, well, why did I say no? When my whole life I had drink, it was because I was so tired of just taking it up and seeing my life repeat. Different people would come in and out, but from if you took a bird's eye view, it was the same thing that I was going through, the same hurt that I was repeating just with different people. And I'm like, I can get off of this merry-go-round. And I think I kind of knew that alcohol was the root of it all for me. That was that first day.

Sebastian Rusk 5:35

What was day two like?

Mallorie Nuttall 5:40

Day two was where I started to question it because then day two, I'm now sitting in this, and now I'm really sitting in the pain of the breakup. You know, one day is fine, but what about the next day? Well, now there's all this buildup and there's all this sadness, and there's all this, you know, why am I here? How did I get here? I'm going through this breakup and any kind of heartache, whether it's a breakup or a job loss or a death of a loved one or anything, it's painful. It's just it's not something anybody wants to go through. And so not having numbed it that first day, but not necessarily knowing how to deal with it without numbing it, well, now it's a buildup. Oh God, well, what do I need today? And that's the question I kept asking myself. Every day that I would say no to alcohol, I would say, well, then what do I need? That I thought alcohol was giving me. What is it? I need to just take a deep breath. Do I need to get outside? Do I need a nap? And I need to call somebody, do I need a hug? And so each day I just kept asking myself the question, what do I need today? What do I need today? And that helped me carve out my own path for sobriety and find a different way. Something that wasn't prescribed to me, it wasn't a traditional route, it wasn't what somebody else around me was doing. It was just I stopped numbing it and I started facing it.

Sebastian Rusk 7:03

Love that. You sent us your bio before the interview, and uh I was reading over it this morning or last night, and I was like, I gotta read this again. This was this was profound. Just the way that you actually explained it. And I for our listeners, I want to read it because it's that good. I'm gonna put it in the show notes so you can read it as well, too. But her message isn't about an attack on alcohol, it's a fight for presence in a world that's become disconnected from self, from each other, and from reality. For years, her day started at 4 30 a.m. with hard rock and pre-workout and ended at midnight with tequila. Removing alcohol was what finally made her present in her own life. She doesn't prescribe a path or claim there's a right one one right way. She shares what presence actually looks like. Her comment sections have been a this is so good. Her comment sections on social media have become a place where strangers stop pretending and start telling each other the truth. Wow, where the fuck did that come from?

Mallorie Nuttall 8:12

Uh prayer time, God. Just truth, experience. Yeah, it's it's easy to see me and and hear what I talk about because I talk about alcohol a lot, talk about sobriety. It always comes back to sobriety for me. Yet there is a deeper arc to why I'm sharing. And it is that one sentence. This isn't so much a fight against alcohol as much as it is a fight for presence. That's what gets me up in the morning. That and and sobriety, alcohol, removing alcohol was just the gateway for me to truly start to experience what presence was. Because I truly feel and I believe, I believe that alcohol is actually one of the great dividers of our humanity. Think about it. Every time we take a sip, we disconnect from ourselves, from our body. Feels good temporarily for sure. Yet walk with me on this one for a second. You take a sip, disconnects you. Yet your relationship with self will always be mirrored in your relationships with others. So if you're drinking and disconnected from self, what kind of relationships do you think you're fostering?

Sebastian Rusk 9:26

People that are disconnected from themselves.

Mallorie Nuttall 9:29

You are.

Sebastian Rusk 9:29

It's it's it's not Thanks for summing up my dating life, Mal.

Mallorie Nuttall 9:34

Send me the invoice. Uh check in the mail. Oh gosh, seriously though. Relationships, and that was something that goes back to my childhood. A lot of relationships around me, and family and friends all had alcohol rooted, and they were always very combative. They were always very not compatible. And then I learned that and I repeated that my teenage years, 20 years, even going into my 30s, I would be like, I would date people and then become their girlfriend, would be in a relationship, and then it'd be that I'd be with people where people who really knew me would be like, yeah, we just don't get it. Yeah, why are why are you two together? And I'm like, it's fine. Well, I was drunk all the time. So two disconnected versions of people together, it's an illusion. It's not real, it's not present. And so when I started to remove that, I feel like it was just the final breakup where alcohol had been so prevalent in the relationship. And I said, This is the common denominator. You asked me what day two was like, day three, day four. Those first that first month after that breakup was more of me reflecting on why did I say no on day one? And wait, this is the common denominator. Maybe I need to stop lying to myself that this isn't a problem. And so for me, it's I I do see a future. Oh, for all the tequila lovers in my hate this. Uh, but I do see a future without alcohol. I do see alcohol, and I feel like there's gonna be a day where we look at alcohol just as like we look at cigarettes now.

Sebastian Rusk 11:12

Yeah.

Mallorie Nuttall 11:12

And for me, and I also feel like it's because I gotta say. Right. And we have to think about it though. Why? Because being a human and the human experience is raw. Right. Okay, it is raw. One of my favorite ways to combat this when somebody asks me, Oh, you don't drink? I'm like, nah, I like to raw dog life. And it always gets a giggle. Yeah. But it's also, it's very true, it's very accurate. Like to go throughout life, to go throughout the highs and the lows, the heartbreaks, the betrayals, the lies, that all of that without numbing any part of it, without tampering it just a little bit, that's like listening to, I don't even know, screamo music at like level 1000.

Sebastian Rusk 11:56

It's just yeah, no, it's like flying southwest with no Wi-Fi. Yeah.

Mallorie Nuttall 11:59

Yeesh. Very, yeah. It's probably but okay, to the point, sometimes that's people's only experience of what presence even feels like. And what do people do when that happens? When their Wi-Fi goes out on an airplane. What do I do? I don't know what to do. I I can't, I don't know what's nothing. They start to freak out because they don't know how to just be with themselves. We've lost that. We've lost that. And now it's mirroring and every other thing, it's rippling out. And so for me, it's whatever is that divider for you, whatever cuts you off, start like if that happened for me and I just started questioning it, like, why is it, why am I allowing it to cut me off?

Sebastian Rusk 12:36

If someone's listening to this right now and they're thinking, this all sounds great and everything, but I haven't been able to figure this path out for myself. I don't even know where I would even start with something like this. For for someone like yourself that doesn't specifically have a framework because you really don't believe in a framework because you know Mal's framework because it worked for you. But as far as I a perfect stranger or somebody else or somebody who reached out to ask these questions, but I mean, how how how do you respond to someone? Because I'm sure somebody slid into the DMs, if not more than more, more than several times, and said, you know, how do I get started? Where what are some advice you can give me? What what's a typical response to to people when they say that?

Mallorie Nuttall 13:23

I love that question because I've had to figure that out because you're right, I don't believe in giving people a framework or a step-by-step on this is how you get sober, because I have talked to enough people in sobriety to realize that all I would be saying is what worked for me. And the reason why it worked for me is because of how I live life up until this point. And so if somebody comes into me and they're just like, okay, what is it then? What do I do? Just pause next time that you're gonna drink and ask yourself, why? Just why? Just start to get curious about your reality, start to question your decisions. Pause. It's the one thing I did on the river that day. If I would have just done what I've always done and just slipped into the habit, I would have said, Yes, grab me a bottle. And then you keep repeating it. I paused. When was the last time you actually paused and asked why are you doing the things in your life that are habitual? Because when you start to ask, and you might get a smart ass response the first time from yourself, why do you want to drink? Because I love it. Because I want to party, because it's gonna be great. Ask why five times. Okay, well then why do you feel like you need that in order to feel great? And if you keep asking yourself, this is what I keep asking myself, because when I started asking myself that question, why do you need it? Why do you really want to drink right now? Well, because I'm in a room full of people and I'm not confident. And I'm anxious, you know?

Speaker 3 14:55

Yeah.

Mallorie Nuttall 14:56

So then it it's not that it's gonna get fixed because you've answered that question, but then I made me myself realize, well, then how can I work on my confidence? And then you gotta go do the work, which is why I feel like it's much easier temporarily to just drink. Because by not drinking, and if there was a core reason that was deeply rooted of why you feel like you need that, well, the answer is not a simple, well, here, just do this instead. It's gonna be an invitation to walk down a path and you're gonna see how long that path is. And not many people like to go on hikes. Okay. That's the thing. So it's it's a decision point. And I feel like it's one of the hardest decisions I've ever done. But it's a daily decision and it becomes a daily invitation to keep walking that path.

Sebastian Rusk 15:43

I believe it also, I mean, full first of all, after all of those mic drop mic drop moments uh and such wisdom, um, let me just publicly give you your flowers on showing up for yourself and showing up for Mallorie. Uh, because uh you you're a product of of showing up for yourself. And you you and I are now friends because of the way you showed up on the internet, and God decided that your content needed to show up on my feed and we needed to connect and uh have a great conversation uh prior to the interview here, and then we're you know, in the midst of an incredible conversation talking about your story. Friends, if you're listening to this right now, there is no mistake on why you press play on this episode. It is at a divine appointment in your life for you to be able to hear whatever it is that you're hearing right now by being able to hear Mallorie's story. I am encouraged by it. I know you absolutely must be encouraged by it, and I know she's encouraged by being able to share it once again on here. So this is not a call to action. This is not click the link below. This is nothing. Just want to thank you for taking some time. There's a lot of things you a lot of things you can be doing right now. You decided to press play and hang out with us for an hour, and I really appreciate that. I know Mallorie does as well, too. All right, we'll now return to our regular scheduled programming.

Mallorie Nuttall 17:00

The power of sharing a story, though. Yes, which actually what you just said just sparked another reason I I feel like why I share the way that I do. And it's not click the link below or here's a clear pathway of of what you need to buy next.

Sebastian Rusk 17:13

Free download.

Mallorie Nuttall 17:14

You know, free download, exactly. Uh, which we've all become so used to nowadays. It's because that's what worked for me also. In my first year of sobriety after the breakup, I needed to find a new place to live. And because I was living for my then boyfriend, and one of my dear friends and mentors offered her a place. I was like, okay. Moved in with this woman. Little did I know she had over 20 years of sobriety. You want to talk about God's whispers, divine appointment? Okay. This woman opened up her house to me. I was working remote to live, to heal there, and to just be. She did not say, Well, I think you should be sober. Well, I think you should stop drinking. She didn't even know that I had said no, because I still had not made that decision. I knew I hadn't drunk, but I didn't know it was an ultimate decision of I'm not gonna drink. Yet here I was now, brokenhearted, living in this woman's house, doing my thing. And every day I'm seeing her. And she is just vivacious. She's the most fun person I've ever met in my entire life. And then I find out she hasn't drank in 20 years. Wait a minute. That caused me to pause. One of the most incredible humans I've ever met, who's the life of the party, who is just infectious energy, incredible laugh, and she doesn't drink. But I thought you got a drink to party. I thought you got a drink to have fun. How is she doing this? So she became this lighthouse. She wasn't my coach or telling me what to do or how to live my life, but she became a stark contrast to the life that I had lived up to that point. And I thank her and I'm grateful to her for this life and all the lives after this. Because just her being her, just by her existing and being open on her life, I was able to see a different way. And so you'll never hear me say, Here are the top 10 steps you gotta do to get sober. You're never gonna hear that from me. All you're ever gonna hear from me is here's what worked for me, here's what didn't work for me, here's why I did it. I will answer all the questions that I'm the expert on, which are the questions on my life. Not the expert on yours. And she wasn't, yet she had a profound impact on mine by just being boldly herself.

Sebastian Rusk 19:38

Amazing. Lift as you climb.

Speaker 3 19:41

Yes.

Sebastian Rusk 19:44

You uh you shared something a couple of weeks ago that um and it was kind of a tongue-in-cheek uh context, but you were still making a valid point. You're like, hey, I don't know who he needs to hear this, but like if you drink, it's okay.

Speaker 3 20:01

Like, oh yeah.

Sebastian Rusk 20:03

I have friends that consume alcohol. I don't, but I have friends that do, and guess what? Go nuts. Do whatever you want. Just so you know, okay? And this like awkwardness. Uh no, and then you also talked about people's need to justify why they drink when you share your story of sobriety. And it's like, I mean, I immediately started thinking like the next question for that person is where else does this show up in in your life? You know, where you immediately feel like you have to explain yourself because somebody's doing something that you know you should be doing was exactly what showed up. Let's talk about that for a minute.

Mallorie Nuttall 20:48

Let's, yeah, I become the alcohol police all of a sudden. I didn't know. It's like they gave me a badge, and now all of a sudden they feel like they were caught and they got to tell me and try to justify and plead their case. I'm like, yo, I I I didn't ask, I don't care. Like, it's the strangest thing because, and this is typically how it happens. It's very organic. You're out at dinner or out at a concert, out at a bar. Yeah, every now and then I will still go there with friends. You know, it's not like I've sworn off everything. And then I'll get offered a drink and I'll say, No, I'm good. And then they'll maybe offer another thing. And I'm like, no, it's okay. Well, why not? That's a whole nother conversation. Why is not drinking so questioned? It's such an interesting thing. But I'll just say, like, oh, well, I just don't drink. Like ever? I'm like, I mean, not today, not for the last four years, you know? And then they go, there's this awkward.

Sebastian Rusk 21:44

What happened?

Mallorie Nuttall 21:45

Yeah, okay. This is the best part. Yeah, it's like I get I get a couple different reactions, but they're very repetitive. Number one is like they get like so concerned. Oh my gosh, what happened? Like, and they think there's some massive story, some massive rock bottom thing. Okay, there's that. The funniest thing.

Sebastian Rusk 22:00

Tell them the story and they're like, Oh.

Mallorie Nuttall 22:02

Yeah.

Sebastian Rusk 22:03

Okay.

Mallorie Nuttall 22:04

Yeah, they're like, okay.

Sebastian Rusk 22:05

Surprise, blood twist.

Mallorie Nuttall 22:08

Yeah, it's the most, it's the weirdest thing. Like, you need a reason. Or then there's an awkward pause, and then they go, they can't let it go. They can't let it go that I don't drink. They refuse to let it go. So they go, Well, I don't drink that much. Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's I mean, I only drink like every now and then, but I could totally stop if I wanted to. And I'm just listening. And they'll go on and on and on. And then it's just so fascinating to see what it triggers in people. And I thought that was always, I used to think a younger version of myself would think, oh, okay, this is where I need to explain why I drink. No, I don't. I just sit back and I listen and I let it be awkward. I don't need to tell you why I don't drink. And this whole thing that you're having right now is all with you. And I think it's beautiful that you're talking about it, but it's also like, I'm not the police, I'm not judging you at all. You are essentially like you are judging yourself just by seeing somebody live in a different way. That's it. But it's it's such a fascinating thing. Uh so if anybody's like experimenting with not drinking, like next time that somebody asks you and you say, No, I'm good, just let it sit and just watch the conversation unfold. Because everybody's gotta justify it. Yeah.

Sebastian Rusk 23:30

It was funny when this this whole journey started a few months ago with my buddies and I just you know making better decisions. He was out to dinner, one of our buddies was out to dinner with his boss um at a fancy steakhouse, and there's a few other big business colleagues is there, and everybody's you know, ordering drinks the whole night, and and we're like, It's Tuesday night, like what's going on? He goes, I ordered one, I will not be touching it. He's like, but I don't, but the macho man, you know, doesn't want to justify and explain themselves to a group of guys on why you're not actually having a drink with the boys or whatever it is, even though it's a business context on there. And uh yeah, ordered a Don Julio, sat there and watched it the entire night. He goes, We got done with dinner, we got up, and I go, I I go, tell me you didn't think about slamming it. He goes, Oh, 100, but then I go, not worth it. I go, yeah, not for one. I mean, if there's a couple there, maybe, not for one.

Mallorie Nuttall 24:27

So people ask me that too. They're like, Well, do you ever want to drink? I'm like, you know what? It doesn't happen as often just because it's been four years now, so it's almost it's become my identity that I just don't drink. I don't think about it, you know? Yet every now and then, if I'm going through, going through it, everybody's got it right. And there's those days where it'll like happen. Country music and summertime. I don't know.

Sebastian Rusk 24:49

Oh yeah, Kenny Chesney. I want a cold beer. Yeah.

Mallorie Nuttall 24:52

You know what I'm saying? Like, uh, what is that? Barefoot, blue jean night. Yeah, absolutely. If that plays and the sun's hitting and Matter River, I don't know. I just want a beer in my hand. Like it's just like it's just a part, which okay, which is a whole nother thing on drinking culture and how much it's ingrained in us. Yet, yes, those moments will happen, and then I'll kind of giggle because I'll be like, okay, that's interesting that that's coming up. I go, but you know what that experience is like. You know what it leads to. I go, so why don't you just go dance in the unknown for a second? What would this be like without it? I spent my teenage years, my 20 years, well into my 30s, drinking. Trust me. I know what the drinking life is like. Trust, okay. I'm a millennial. I was the reason why the club stayed in business. Okay. Like Malpal Party gal, full throttle. So it's like, I know what that is. I know who I am, and I know what life is like with it. Yet that's another reason why I wanted to stop because I realized my life had become repetitive. My relationships that I got into became repetitive. The problems I was having was were repetitive. Everywhere in my life, I would reach a certain level with my fitness, with my relationships, with my faith, with everything. But it was like there was this invisible ceiling that was just blocking it from getting to the next level. And I'm like, why? Well, how don't you take this off? And oh gosh, now everything's brand new again. Another reason why, and some people might relate to this, like I would drink was because I didn't feel comfortable fully expressing myself without it. Nerves, anxiety, what are people thinking? All that kind of stuff. Man, the first concert I went to without alcohol, I was an awkward turtle. I was so strange. Like I forgot how to dance all of a sudden. I didn't know what to do without something in my hand. I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is so ingrained in our system. And then it's like there I think there was just one moment where I was just like, and I'm just gonna release and I'm gonna let let myself express. And you know how freeing it is to not need something outside of yourself to be yourself? Like, novel concept. Yet that's what these past four years have been. It's giving myself permission just to be me all the time, no matter what.

Sebastian Rusk 27:19

Love that. Give yourself listeners, give yourself permission to be you, a hundred percent you. I don't know what's on the other side of that for you, but there's something there. Mal is a great case study that something is on the other side. I am as well, too. Not on the sobriety tip, God knows I keep Don Julio in business, but um I uh we're working on it, working on it. The awareness around all of that, the awareness of being able to, you know, my my curiosity fuels my aware awareness of like, man, what what what what's possible with continuing to peel back layers and and be able to really uh step into who it is that we were put on this planet to do and be able to adhere to the calling of our life. Malin and I were talking about that before the interview. There's a calling on all of our lives. Not everybody adheres to it. And that's entirely up to you. That's on you, that's your decision, that's between you and your creator. I know what I want to do, and that's leave it all in the field, die empty and impact and pour as much of Sebastian into other people's lives as I possibly can. And Mallorie is clearly um along that same thought process um just based on how she shows up and with her story on here. So if you're listening to this right now and you're triggered and you want to turn this episode off, good. You'll turn it back on. I promise. Mallorie, you're an absolute force and a gift to this world, and it's just my privilege to to now call you a friend and be connected with you. I this is why I do, this is my life's work, podcasting, communicating, um, and uh helping other people do that same thing. But this is why I'm able to do I'm able to get in the trenches with with people and um lock arms with them and continue to to build our build our tribe uh you know, one dope human at a time, um, through just incredible stories of uh this is the upside of social media. The algorithm, um, not so much. The scrolling, the doom scrolling, not so much. Meeting dope humans and being able to sit down and have conversations like this with them um and know that we don't know we don't we have no idea what's gonna happen from from this episode. We have no idea who's listening right now, and and um but that's the cool part about it. To be able to, I believe I'm believing that um this is a ripple. Uh ripples become waves. Somebody told me one one time, and I believe that uh this conversation is uh we we've started several ripples today, and I'm really excited to see what's on the other side of it for both us and and and also um those get the opportunity to consume the content and your content as well, too. So thank you so much for uh hanging out with me today and our conversation um before the interview really warmed my heart. And then, of course, this interview just continued to to to contribute to that process. So thank you. Thank you for how you show up, thank you for who you are, and um, I see you, and I am wildly encouraged by you and your life.

Mallorie Nuttall 30:13

Thank you for your presence. That's that's what this is all about because I feel that to be human right now, you have a choice. We all do. It's very easy to get caught up in the race, and you're just on the tip of the iceberg of what it truly means to be human. If your days are repeating themselves, they're on fast forward, and it's just like work, consume, sleep, repeat, work, consume, sleep, repeat. Pause, slow down, and let yourself sink into the depths of this experience. Because there is a whole world there if you just shift your perspective and you bring some attention to it. And I know that in our first conversations, you're a beautiful example of that. Like you're here. I know you're not anywhere else, like you're here. And that's that's what we need more of in this world. So thank you.

Sebastian Rusk 31:11

Great. You're so welcome. I was gonna ask you what your final thoughts are, but like you can't really get any better.

Mallorie Nuttall 31:17

Don't make me one up myself.

Sebastian Rusk 31:19

Yeah, my gosh. That was those those were the final thoughts.

unknown 31:22

Yeah.

Sebastian Rusk 31:23

Keep doing what you're doing, it matters, and I'm so excited to see what's next for you.

Mallorie Nuttall 31:29

Definitely. Thank you.

Sebastian Rusk 31:30

Yes, we'll have to do it again sometime soon. A follow-up episode. To be determined. Let's go. Thanks again. Well, that's the story behind the story. Thanks so much for tuning into this episode. We sure do appreciate it. This one hit home. Be sure to share with someone who needs to hear it. Make sure you follow Beyond the Story so you don't miss new episodes as they become available. Until next time, keep building, keep showing up, and remember everybody has a story worth telling.