Rewire Your Mind & Step Into God’s Purpose with Tiffany Taylor

Sebastian Rusk 0:04

This is the Beyond the Story Podcast, a show that goes way beyond the story. Welcome to the show.

Tiffany Taylor 0:24

Thank you so much for having me.

Sebastian Rusk 0:26

Thanks for being here. You and I found each other through uh the Instagrams. Actually, I was getting you booked on a client's podcast, and we realized we were local and had some similarities here. And I said, wait a second, this is an interesting individual that I want to have a conversation with. So here we are. Good old podcast bringing the world together.

Tiffany Taylor 0:45

I love it. I'm excited for our conversation today.

Sebastian Rusk 0:47

I'm excited for it as well. You know, Timothy, I love telling people's story on this show. And for context purposes for our listeners, I always like to go back to the beginning of the story. Now, the beginning's different for everyone, so you decide where the beginning is for you. But take us back for a minute and help us better understand where this all started with what you're currently doing right now. Walk us through what transpired to bring you to what you do today and serving the individuals that you do.

Tiffany Taylor 1:13

Yeah. So when I was in my early 20s, I noticed and learned two things about myself. The first thing I learned is that I've been programmed, as we all have from childhood. And the second thing I learned is I had this big dream for freedom. I wanted to have financial freedom, but I also wanted to have freedom of my time to enjoy my time. And I wanted to be able to travel the world. And so a lot of people find this freedom paradox where they can do one or the other, but not all three. And the third thing I learned is that the current programming and conditioning of my mindset was not set to have freedom as the final destination. So I knew that I needed to reprogram my mind. And that set me off on a lifelong journey of learning how the subconscious mind works. So learning what limiting beliefs are, learning how to overcome emotional trauma, and learning how to actually renew the mind and become the kind of person who can have the dream and the freedom that I'm wanting to have.

Sebastian Rusk 2:16

Okay, I love that. There's a lot to unpack there. So you asked me the other day, which it's kind of like me asking you when do you start a podcast, or do you have a podcast? You're like, Do you have any what limiting beliefs have been showing up lately? And um at first I was like, Don't ask me that question, right? That's what everybody asks, right? Don't ask me that question, the tough questions, right? And then it also got me thinking, I'm like, Well, gosh, I don't know. We can run through it. I've done the work, let's, let's, let's run through this real quick. And I couldn't immediately identify those. So when you think limiting beliefs, um let's let's give our listeners some examples of what limiting beliefs are to kind of set the tone here and unpack this for a second, because it's very important because limiting beliefs are I I believe are an expressway to getting, not only getting, but staying, getting the getting and staying in our own way. And I think a lot of people are in their own way, and you may or may not know it because of the subconscious programming. So let's let's let's for starters, let's talk about some examples of limiting beliefs.

Tiffany Taylor 3:19

Yeah. So an easy way to discover what your programming is is to look at anything that you consider normal. If you consider your diet normal, if you consider your current income normal, or whatever your current lifestyle is, anything that you're considering normal is your conditioning. So that's a good way to expose it. And a limiting belief is something that you hold inside that you may be aware of, you may not be aware of, that's limiting your current potential. And the thing is, we tend to limit ourselves before we even give the world the opportunity to limit us. So what that could look like, for example, someone starting a new podcast, it could look like who would want to listen to me? I shouldn't start a podcast because no one's gonna listen anyways, or it's gonna be a lot of work and I don't have the skills to do it yet.

Sebastian Rusk 4:06

Okay. I love that. Yeah, because I come across that probably about 90% of the time. I want to start a podcast, but don't like the sound of my voice. I'm gonna look like shit, sound like shit. I remember that time in the third grade when I came out in the third play, the third grade play, and I forgot my lines and everybody laughed at me. I haven't said a word since. So I were I get to work through a lot of those uh with the clients we get to work with. It's so relevant in podcasting, I think with content specifically, but or or with whatever it may be. But as I often challenge people's thought processes, mine was challenged some 15 years ago, and that is, you know, who's missing out because you're not showing up, because you're so wrapped up in this story that you are convinced it's true, which by the way, is not true. Maybe it is. Chances are it's probably not. So let's talk about how you break through these things. How do we how do we reset uh the belief system uh in order to look to a different lens and and really start believing, develop a different way of believing?

Tiffany Taylor 5:05

Yeah. So the first part is always awareness. Notice how that's showing up for you. So, for example, maybe it's someone that's hesitating on booking a call with you about launching their podcast, or maybe it's someone who is just allowing that goal of setting a podcast to be on next year's list and they keep pushing it off. Once we have awareness and how it's showing up, we can go a little bit deeper there. Now, there's two ways to do it. You can try by brute force and willpower to just overrule that thought or that belief and do the opposite. And for some people, they're able to do that. But for others, and for what I would call the majority, trying to do something out of willpower will only long term lead to you snapping back to your original identity. And so most limiting beliefs are a problem, but that's not the root cause of the problem. So, my work when I'm working with someone is I'm looking at what is the root cause or the significant event that happened all the way before the age of seven that's allowing this pattern to make sense logically. When we can find that, we can start rewiring the identity so that speaking on camera and grabbing the microphone actually feels normal and it feels natural to you.

Sebastian Rusk 6:20

For those of you listening, normal is a setting on your dryer, but we're trying to get as close to normal as we possibly can with what we're talking about here, right, Dephany?

Tiffany Taylor 6:28

Yeah, we want it to feel natural. We want it to feel like this conversation, it feels very easy for me. When I first started my business, I would have been trembling and shaking at the microphone. And, you know, that would have been visible in the way that I was speaking. But because I've been able to rewire that, this feels like a normal conversation, like I'm having coffee with a friend.

Sebastian Rusk 6:48

Right. Yeah, I always when I when I attempt to or when I try my best to to challenge people's thought process when it comes to limiting beliefs, specifically with podcasting or wherever it may be, I always ask them a simple question, which is who told you that? And I in fact, when I think about the talks that I get the opportunity to to give from time to time, you know, I I always take a moment to to set the record straight and remind the entire room that that that yes you can. And and a lot of people are like, wait a second. What is this, a raw-rah session? Yeah, maybe. Maybe a little bit of rah-rah, a little woo-woo is what we need right now. And I I just if it's okay with everybody, I want to set, I want to, I want to set the record straight that yes, you can. Well, why in the world would you need to give me permission again? Because somewhere along the lines, somebody told you that you couldn't do something and you believe them. And then we took it a step further, we started living our lives according to that. And then we took it a step further, we started enrolling other people into a story that isn't even true. And we sit and wonder why our lives are disaster. So when you start to, like you said, bring awareness into that, shine a big fat flashlight, spotlight into that area of I could never do that. Never's a strong word, isn't it? How do we deal with never, Tiffany?

Tiffany Taylor 8:07

Yeah. Never is like the we're using the word always. We never want to use something in that context, right? Because there's always going to be an outlier. And that's also a really easy thing to rewire. Anytime you say never or always, just look for evidence in the opposite direction. And it's going to exist. So starting to collect evidence that it is possible for you, that you are more than capable, that people want to hear your voice and that you do have value to bring is a really excellent way to start. And what's important is recognizing that you're not going after some short-term fix. And I think that's our society today. That's our culture today. We want a quick fix. We want the convenience of having this problem disappear entirely. And releasing a pattern sustainably requires you doing the hard thing now and going deeper into that. Sometimes that looks like seeing what the emotions are behind it, especially when a pattern is longstanding over decades.

Sebastian Rusk 9:03

Yeah. Yeah, the work is messy. If you're listening to this and you're like you're starting to get that little funny feeling in your stomach a little bit, like maybe I'll turn this off and and turn it back on later. No, no, no, no, no. Keep listening. Because you press play for a reason for that. There's something here for you that you need to be able to hear. What we avoid chases us. Um, and that's my own personal experience. Still is to this day. Yeah. And are there go ahead, please?

Tiffany Taylor 9:30

Okay, let's that messy part. Let's talk about that. Because I feel like there's still a stigma about it being messy. It's almost like there's a shame or a level of embarrassment or even this association that it's weak to talk about those things. And I think a much healthier way to look at it instead of it being messy is if your funnel is falling apart online, you're just gonna hire a go high-level expert to fix that. Right. If you have a wide open cut on your arm and you are bleeding out, hopefully you're going to go see a doctor who can help you. Right. You're not gonna be embarrassed and say, I need to fix my wound before I see the doctor so they don't judge me. Right. We need to have that same clinical mindset when it comes to doing that kind of messy work.

Sebastian Rusk 10:18

Okay. I and I I completely embrace that. That's a great angle. And I didn't even think about it that way. But when I think messy, it's it's kind of like it's permission-based. It's like, you know what, sometimes it will get a little messy while you're getting in there and navigating it out. It take a deep breath. It's okay. Like it's it's it's the the the the mess is it's it's it's a temporary thing, it's a temporary phase that that that we go through. I don't know, I guess maybe some would refer to it as the messy middle. I don't know if that's the right term at all, but I I love the way you've reframed that. Um you got you got obsessed with the subconscious mind. I love that because the closest that I've come to doing that is being able to just um command my subconscious mind to let them know that I'm the boss. I know you're here and I know that you're on autopilot, but I'm the boss. And I'm gonna and here's how things are gonna go. And I think that that helps at least, I mean, regularly as much as possible. But again, I ha I haven't even got into I because it's it's a whole world of of like all I think of is when I'm driving a car and you're screwing around with your phone or you're trying to find a charger or where's my water bottle or whatever it is, anything with driving, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh my god, I was driving a car just now. Like that was your subconscious doing all that is the closest example that I've come to how extremely, extremely powerful our subconscious is. But let's let's talk about that for a second here because I think that that we don't give enough credit to the subconscious literally, you know, running the show if we let it, even though it technically does.

Tiffany Taylor 11:49

Yeah, and that misinformation, there's so much misinformation about the subconscious mind. And thank God it's running us because it's the only part of our mind that's working 24 hours a day, right? It's responsible for so much. It's your subconscious is responsible for breathing and blinking and digesting. It's running your whole system and it's responsible for over 90% of what you do every day. Whoa. You can think of it, oh yeah, 90%. And you can think of it as your little SOP writer, right? Anyone in business knows what a standard operating procedure is. It's watching the decisions that you're making consciously, creating an SOP for that, and automating all of the decision making. That way you can maintain mental bandwidth. So when someone says they feel like they have 87 tabs open in their brain, right? That's why you're gonna feel like you don't have capacity or bandwidth because you're putting way too much and overloading your conscious mind instead of systemizing things and allowing the subconscious mind to focus.

Sebastian Rusk 12:54

Okay. Where does busy fit into all this? I think it was Bill Gates who was recently quoted as saying that busy is the new stupid. So how does busy come along in this whole equation? Because it you know, it's it's something about the busy. I and I think it's uh I don't think that I don't necessarily think busy is a good thing. Productive is a good thing. I don't know that busy is a good thing because we want to constantly be distracted, and if we're constantly distracted, and if I just work, I'm just born of this, and I don't have to worry about that, which then avoidance starts to show up and it starts to fuel um that area um of our of our minds where we're like if I just if I just focus on something else, I don't have to think about it. But that thing keeps showing up and consistently. How how does that all where does busy fit into this whole equation?

Tiffany Taylor 13:45

So my personal stance on busyness is that it's actually poor stewardship. It's poor stewardship of your body, your mind, your business, the calling you have on your life, and it's poor stewardship of the relationships you have, whether that's your team, your spouse, or your family. Busyness to me screams lack of intentionality. And so whenever you're running a business and you have goals, which hopefully everyone listening to this knows and is clear on what their goals are, then you should be able to allocate your time to what's most important. That's going to require time aside, where that's all that you're thinking about, not just allowing things to play out. So I really am a firm believer in reverse engineering. And what I tend to see is that people are who are busy are too busy to reverse engineer their own goals, therefore taking years longer to hit their potential, which they could have done way earlier if they had just been more intentional.

Sebastian Rusk 14:42

Where does um where do uh habits and vices come into the equation when it comes to subconscious programming and limiting beliefs?

Tiffany Taylor 14:52

Yeah, vices and habits. So habits are those SOPs that we talked about. Habits are all stored in the subconscious mindset. Bad habits. Correct.

Sebastian Rusk 15:01

Doritos, 10 p.m., you know.

Tiffany Taylor 15:04

And there's gonna be different parts to that too. Um, brain chemistry plays a role in whatever you're craving as well. But like I shared, this is an SOP that's created behind the scenes. So a lot of people think it takes 21 days to form a positive habit. That's actually not true, it's a total myth. I've even seen gyms like Planet Fitness put this on their televisions, and it's not accurate at all. So it takes an average of 66 to 120 days of consistency to build a new habit if you're trying to DIY this. It takes 21 days to break a bad habit. Like that's if you're focused on willpower. But we've seen with something like hypnosis, a new habit can be formed or broken in as little as one or two sessions.

Sebastian Rusk 15:48

Wow. So I've done I did hypnosis once. It's very expensive, um, but it can be effective if you keep doing it. I only went to one session and I did drop in or was, you know, open. You got to be open to, by the way, but you gotta be open to anything we're talking about on this podcast. You've got to be open to addressing your limiting beliefs and being able to work through them. You've got to be open to hypnotherapy and it actually happening. If you, you know, if you want to let your ego run the show and I'm digging your heels and fold your arms and I'm not getting hypnotized, guess what? You're not getting hypnotized. Um what is let's talk about that for a second, the hypnosis aspect. Because I did one session and that day I was like, oh, I'm totally different. The next day I was like, I don't know if it worked.

Tiffany Taylor 16:31

Oh, interesting. Well, if you're open to sharing, could you be more specific on what you were hoping to get out of it?

Sebastian Rusk 16:38

Yeah, at the time I was in a relationship, so I was trying to to recalibrate how I showed up in the relationship. Um, but come to find out when the relationship didn't work out, I was just dating an extreme avoidant. And I'm the polar opposite of that. I lean in, they run, and they're what you can't hypnotize yourself out of that equation if you you did if you did five years of that work. So um that my that example wasn't the best.

Tiffany Taylor 17:02

Yeah. So that's a perfect example, something I actually love to talk more about because I'm a master hypnotherapist and I also have a master in NLP. Now, what a lot of people don't know is that hypnotherapy is one subset of tools of the entire textbook in NLP. There's so many different tools that we have available to us to penetrate the subconscious mind. But because it's kind of taken off online and you have even the stage hypnotists doing the shows, hypnosis has become something that's trendy. But oftentimes, hypnosis is not the best tool for the outcome that you're looking for. So, for example, if you have dense emotions that are showing up or trauma responses that are showing up, hypnosis is not the best tool for that. There's other tools that are far better. If you're someone who can only picture the worst case scenario going forward, you cannot visually see in your mind's eye what success would look and feel like to you, then hypnosis is a phenomenal tool for that. So tools are great, but if you're trying to um screw in a screw with a hammer, right, just because it's a tool doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.

Sebastian Rusk 18:08

Yeah. Um I've done some work with psychedelics in the past with a practitioner through some deep work that I've done on here. And I I think that um that's been extremely effective in being able to break through um limiting beliefs while in the actual therapy and the ceremony um of all of it, because as you probably know, it it allows us to access more of our of our brain than we than we ordinarily would be able to, but we're also leaving that that that session with something that we don't even know about where our our our our subconscious is um is is downloading uh a ton of information on here. One experience that I had was we I I I was recorded the entire time. And it was a four-hour uh session. And we were we were encouraged to just talk. And at the beginning my ego went into overdrive. I was like, I talk for a living, I'm not talking during this, and for like 20 minutes, I'm like, I'm not talking, I'm not talking. And then eventually I was able to work through why I wasn't talking and talk myself into letting go so I could talk. And I was told that whatever I whatever I said during that entire three and a half hour session was my higher self, which I wasn't even clear on, telling me what I needed to do next with myself. Now, in full transparency, I never went through that entire recording. I went through about an hour of it. I was supposed to transcribe it, download it, meditate on it, see what it was there for me. And I didn't do all of that, but I guess um, and that was like three years ago. Still got the recording. Maybe I should dump through that again. What where where does all of this start to play? Because I know psychedelics are starting to become more mainstream with PTSD and deep-rooted trauma and extremely effective, done-through, guided facilities. And I'm not talking about going out in the middle of the, you know, burning man and eating a bunch of mushrooms trying to figure out with your friends. I'm referring to, you know, the clinical studies that have taken place. Have you had any experience or knowledge or expertise in that world?

Tiffany Taylor 20:12

I don't have any expertise in that world. From what I've seen, the current trials look promising, but there's not enough data points to support that. And there have been just as many risk factors, if not more, compared to similar therapies. So from what I've seen from outlier cases, like soldiers, like you mentioned or veterans, I've seen it can be really effective, but there is a downside risk that's unpredictable that I would actually steer people away from. I've seen different psychedelics, I've seen people who haven't come back.

Sebastian Rusk 20:42

So that's that's that's that's the one side.

unknown 20:45

Yeah.

Sebastian Rusk 20:45

And I've had some people be like, I don't want to wake anything up. And I was like, I don't think you should, I don't think you should.

Tiffany Taylor 20:51

But I also don't think that you need psychedelics to reach that. Like what you what someone told you was your higher self. I believe, for example, that every man has a king and a fool inside of him, and which everyone you feed is the one that you're going to become. The king is the one who has the intention to build his capacity as a leader, build your emotional intelligence, wake up early every day, stay consistent with the gym, right? And that fool inside is the one that wants to grab the Dorito bag at 10 o'clock at night and stay up all night. And I don't know your habits. I'm making things up, of course. But like watch TV or just fall into lower habits that are going to sabotage the future potential of who you can become. And so whichever one of those you feed is the one you'll become. And meditation, even without substances, will allow you to connect deeper with your highest intentions.

Sebastian Rusk 21:39

Yeah. I try to do that every day in the Steam Room or sauna. The call map helps because it's guided. They just talk and I just listen, but it does to be able to stop and call my. There was a point in time I couldn't meditate at all. And my friend, my my friend she taught meditation, and she's like, I can I can help. And she met me at the beach one morning and I can't. Kept giggling. You know, it was right at sunrise. And she's like, All right, I'm not gonna like we're not leaving until you give me three minutes of like undivided meditation. And now I can go for like 15 or 20. I'm like I'm a pretty much a seasoned vet now. But uh you know, it is it's very, very important to stop and and calm our mind. Breath work, breath work has been extremely effective for me. That's really that really ushered me into the world outside of you know walking on fire with Tony Robbins and the landmark forum and the classes and courses and stuff you can go through, the very surface level 101 stuff to really start figuring it out. But as I went deeper and deeper, breath work was something else. It's amazing what happens if you spend 45 minutes hyperventilating in a structured environment, um, unblocking whatever needs to be unblocked in in your body and gaining some clarity in that area. So I'm really grateful for breath work, which is a form of some sort of like psychedelic experience, but with just your breath.

Tiffany Taylor 22:55

Yeah. So curious, for your standpoint, how do you see the difference between like regulation and then resolving something?

Sebastian Rusk 23:05

Resolving something, I think, is like I don't, I don't, it doesn't bother me anymore. I don't think about it. Regulating it is I've been able to work through the white knuckling and get it in check. I don't know.

Tiffany Taylor 23:17

Yeah. Yeah, I love I love that you shared that because I feel that a lot of entrepreneurs and CEOs and anyone in business, they tend to focus on regulation because it's become trendy. And I've even been on calls with high-level CEOs who do up to three hours of meditation a day. And so when it becomes a pattern that you're running from something or you need to constantly cope and meditate, usually that's a sign that there's something underneath that could be resolved. And when you resolve something, you no longer need to continue regulating that at that capacity.

Sebastian Rusk 23:51

Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. I mean, by before I wouldn't I my wounded days um, you know, I think that lack of lack of forgiveness, lack of ownership would would have me carrying and uh you know certain stuff that I didn't need to carry and showing up in specific ways that I didn't need to show up and you know, retaliating, not retaliating, but responding rather reacting, reacting to to certain, you know, individuals and family members or whatever it may be in a certain way. But right, once you find that resolution that comes more times than not through forgiveness for both ourselves and and the other person, um, yeah, that that that definitely resonates. I love that. I love that. So let's talk about what you do to help people.

Tiffany Taylor 24:35

Yeah. So what I've learned that I hated, first of all, my background. Um, I never loved the model of you have to spend an hour with me a week, talk about all the worst things that ever happened to you. And then hopefully in a few months or years, you'll feel better. Right. I never liked that model, and I've seen it in different types of therapies and coaching as well. What I've learned about the subconscious mind is you don't have to keep going over the same things over and over again. You just need a quick release. And so I've learned and worked on a process now where I can get the same results for clients that used to take me three to six months, but I'll do that in a full day intensive now. When you consistently work with someone on a weekly basis, it takes some time, opening up a conversation, building rapport, talking about what came up that week. And just when you start to get deep into a conversation, there's an interruption. And then you have to go through next week. So I've learned that when I take clients through a process with uninterrupted depth through a full long day together, they're able to have breakthroughs that would have otherwise taken them months, for example. And so in that full day, there's a few things that I'm doing. The first part of that day, I'm doing a strategic interview where I'm listening to different language patterns to map out their subconscious mind. Just from listening to someone speak to me, I can clock where their limiting beliefs are, where their limiting decisions are, what emotions have been most present, and what else needs to be released so they can step into that next level version. And from there, I'll choose different tools in my toolbox to help them have the breakthrough that they're looking for. But everything's done in a really custom personalized way and with a high level of precision.

Sebastian Rusk 26:20

If women showed up like you did in the dating world, like men would be so screwed. Like they would just strike out every single time because your number would be had. I mean, I I I crave that. I crave meeting somebody out in the wild like you where I'm just like, I leave and I'm like, what happened just now? Holy what in the world? Yeah. Amazing. I love that. All right. So um for those of you listening, you're you're you're you're if you're still listening, you're clearly engaged in the conversation. So you're gonna want to connect with Tiffany. I'm gonna include her Instagram uh in the show notes. That's the description of this podcast episode, just in case you're wondering what the hell a show note is. Uh on our Instagram profile are all of her links. You can connect with her uh directly and uh let her know you you heard uh you heard uh the interview here on Beyond the Story, and you'd love to connect further and learn more about what she does. If something is is is nudging at you because you're listening to this right now, that my friends is reason in and of itself to take a closer look at what may be possible because I firmly believe there is something there for you with this conversation. There's a rhyme and reason uh for uh it all. I'm currently in the middle of reading for the second time the surrender experience. And if you've never read this book before, like this guy, Michael Singer's life, is remo absolutely mind-blowing. And it all started with just surrender but really yoga, meditation, and surrendering to every opportunity that life brought him. So um why I brought that up, it's kind of relevant to what we're talking about here on here. But um, listeners, what do you need to surrender to right now? What's what's what's nudging at you? Because it's not gonna go anywhere. So you might as well heed the calling. Tiffany, it's been a pleasure to chat with you. You're an absolute force. So I encourage everybody uh to kind of go. I look forward to connecting further with you um as well. Um, I know that I connected with you, connected you with my best friend down in Costa Rica, Kerry Howe, for his wellness podcast. And you're gonna have to ask him about the NLP tapes that he listened to back in 2000 when our friend Scotty let him borrow the whole case of cassettes because he was making a trip back home to South Africa, and he said, I'm gonna learn this whole NLP thing and figure it out. And he listened to the whole program with the workbook on cassettes on a Walkman. So make sure you bring that up when you talk to him. Yeah.

Tiffany Taylor 28:46

Oh, for sure. I can't wait.

Sebastian Rusk 28:48

And I'm sure he's still implementing the uh the uh the NLP practices because they're so so very effective. Tiffany, any final thoughts for our listeners?

Tiffany Taylor 28:57

Just thank you so much for having me on. And I want to double down on what you shared too. If there's any part of you that is feeling like I need to do something about the thing that I've been avoiding, then feed that higher self, feed that king version of you or that queen version of you and reach out. You don't have to know what the problem is, you just have to know that something feels off, and that's more than enough for us to start a conversation. So don't be a stranger, say hi in the DMs, don't just be a spectator, and let's have the breakthrough that you've been craving.

Sebastian Rusk 29:27

Oof, the breakthrough that you've been craving. Let's go, ladies and gentlemen. Tiffany, woo! I'm fired up. What a great conversation to have. Jumping on a plane, going to the Big Apple for a few days. I am uh fired up, encouraged, and uh, there's something in this conversation that's gonna show up in my talk on Friday. So thank you for that. I'll have to update you on what actually uh did show up on here. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Keep doing what you're doing. I'd like to give you your flowers real quick. Keep doing what you're doing. It's clear that you're doing work that matters and you're helping people step into a completely different version of themselves so they can show up differently in this world and they get out there and they can achieve their goals, dreams, and aspirations and everything that God has designed them uh to do. So keep doing uh great work. Uh, I can resonate with the work that you're doing as well. I'm encouraged by it and uh look forward to connecting further.

Tiffany Taylor 30:20

Likewise, me too.

Sebastian Rusk 30:22

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