How To Write A Book In 90 Days w/ Chandler Bolt

SPEAKER_02 0:06

This is the Beyond the Story Podcast, a show that goes way beyond the story. And now it's the best yeah. I think that's my cutest start to show. Thanks so much to the wonderful and one and only Mr. Michael B., the voice of our beloved Miami Heat. So on the show today, I met this individual through a YouTube ad, and he was doing a spin-off on the marketer Ty Lopez, and he happened to be at the same conference that I was MCing, which was traffic and conversions in San Diego, and he renamed himself conveniently Chandler Lopez in front of a bunch of Lambos and Bentleys. And I thought it was absolutely hysterical. So I immediately connected with him and have been following him for the past two years, watching him and his brand continue to grow. And it's just been a great uh uh fun uh opportunity to be able to engage with with this individual online. Uh friends, please help me welcome to the show, Chandler Bolt. Sebastian, great to be here. Thanks for having me. Hey, it's great to it's great to uh have you on the show here. Man, you're uh you're a busy guy. So I I um I always say, you know, you're a guy like you is is um is not uh really that available. Your team is, but you're not in in and by design. So much respect for that. And uh and uh that's great. You got you got the you got your people handling it. No, I'm just kidding. But um uh I've been following your content both personally and professionally on here. You're you're you're big on goals, uh, you don't like ricotta with your pancakes and fruit. Um right? I mean, come on. I mean, listen, you gotta know your audience here, right? Right. And then uh from from from that to, we were just chatting before we started recording. Uh your brother's in one of my favorite bands, Need to Breathe, and he built this ridiculous tree house in South Carolina, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's five of them in South Carolina, the boat farm treehouses. They're luxury, romantic kind of tree houses. Wow. Um, and they're building that into a full business. So that's been cool. That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

There's a link in the show notes. You want to check and go rent a, go, go rent yourself a uh a tree house. I highly consider you doing that. So let's back up a little bit. You own a brand called Self-Publishing School. You are a self-published author, six times over yourself, correct? Seven times over, correct? Six, yep. Six times over. Okay. So let's back up to first of all, how you got started. Did you go to school? What did you go to school for? Did you go to work and then transition to entrepreneur? Let's back up and help our audience really understand where uh, you know, how you got to present-day Chandler Bolt.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Yeah, so I I'm kind of always wanted to be an entrepreneur from a tiny town in the middle of nowhere in South Carolina. Uh, your audience is probably almost almost no one has heard of. It's it's tiny, but it's, you know, I wanted to be an entrepreneur, but when you grow up in a small town, that it's like you got five options. You can be an accountant, you can be a doctor, you can be a janitor, you can be like the closest thing they could tell me was financial advisor. Right. And so I actually shadowed in in high school. And then looking back, I'm like, I would have hated that job. But as someone who is like, oh, entrepreneur, that's not really on the on the chart here. What about financial advisor? Right. So I went to school, college in Charleston, learned how to run a business. I quickly discovered I was learning how to run a business from professors who had never run a business, and that didn't make too much sense to me. So I I dropped out. Um, and I'd already ran multiple businesses. Um, I ran a house painting company in in uh college through a company called Student Painters. Have you ever heard of like student painters, college pro painters, college works, there's a bunch of different companies. But student painters, it's it was the hands down the best experience I've ever had. It was it's an internship, it's basically a franchisee program where they teach you how to run a business by running a house painting company. So my first year, which is your painting houses. So my first year, I was number one in the company, number one in the whole country. And then that gave me the confidence to drop out of school. Wrote and published a book about that same time, did another book, then people started asking about, you know, I was like working on a business that was just totally failing. Meanwhile, people kept asking about books and hey, how are you doing this? Can you help me? And I get on the phone with them for an hour for free and teach them everything I knew. And you know, I would imagine similar to to probably your early days with podcasts, people were like, Hey, how are you doing this podcast? Yeah. And you just get on to be a nice person. And then finally you realize, like, oh man, this is a business. Like, I should be charging for this. Right. Uh, and let's give it a go. So that's how we launched self-publishing school. We had our first cohort of 44 students, then replicated that success in other people. And then that was when the light bulb was really on. Because you know, you do it yourself and you're like, I don't know, can I help other people do this though? I haven't really proven that yet. Yeah. So then you do that, and then you say, All right, I've got the confidence to really scale this and let's go and scale and build. So, you know, to present day, we've you know, we've helped thousands of people publish a book. So we've had, I think, over 5,000 students go through the program uh and just continuing to iterate and improve uh and grow and grow businesses through books.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

I love that. But what I love more though is and another thing we were we started chatting about a bunch of stuff before we started recording, but I wrote your your TED talk randomly popped up on my television at home on a Sunday afternoon. I was like, hot damn, I've been meaning to watch this anyway. And um it was an incredible story. I want to talk about that story in in a in a second here, but uh, I want to I want to lead with with saying that you realized through your entire story that helping someone write a book is hands down one of the biggest and best things you could ever do to contribute to the well-being of not only an individual's life, but the individuals of hundreds of millions of people's lives, because you just don't know what the impact uh of that book uh is is is going to be. Um and I love that because it's about it's it's a it's a in my opinion, it's about legacy. That's what I'm doing this for. I'm dying I'm doing this for the love of the game. And for my daughter to say, hey, to tell her kids this is who your granddad is, you know, this nut with a bow tie, this is what he did, and he helped people start what is now modern day radio. The shows that you listen to, your dad created, right? Not doing it from an ego standpoint, but knowing that I'm enabling people. And I already feel that, and I know you experience that too, because you're taking someone from A to B. And that is just an unbelievable feeling. From I can't write a book to just published, right? Yes. Um and I think there's a lot of you know, there's a lot of power in that. So let let's let's chat a little bit about the TED Talk and how that came about, but more importantly, the story that you gave um, you know, with with the TED Talk.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah, so uh, you know, the the TED Talk came about is is um, you know, I um were worked with Taylor Conroy at the idea collective, and he actually spoke at our um live event last year, author of Adidas Live. And it it was okay, this is a we see this as a customer acquisition um tool for self-publishing school and a way to get the message out, right? Like it was, it's it was and is an important message of leveraged impact. Um, and that's what I talk about in the TEDx talk. But so uh, and we felt like so. Probably the reason you saw it is because it's now it's starting to go viral. Well, it's getting about a thousand views a day. Wow. Uh and if you search how to write a book on YouTube, I think it shows up number two or number three, depending on the day and depending on who's searching. Um, but it's so now this will be a tool to uh teach the methodology of what you know, kind of at a big picture, and then a lot of times they'll go from there to the book, published, and get the book, and then a lot of times they'll either go to the book or they'll go straight to self-publishing school, book a call with my team, end up signing up for self-publishing school. So it's it's a way to educate, inspire, and bring in lead sales um for self-publishing school. And then the story which you mentioned, which is super important on my journey, um, is I had a friend kind of tragically pass away years ago um on a cruise ship, and and um it it just totally changed the trajectory of my life. And actually, so that's when I got this bracelet on one side, and I talk about this at the I think it's the last chapter of my book published, but one side it says make him proud, the other side it says WWKD. So what would Kendall do? That was his name. And so that kick started, you know. I think we have these moments in life where you know you have something crazy happen and then you realize that life is short. And and and so I think the big thing for me is I started living with a sense of urgency and living for two, because for me it was the night before he passed away, we talked about his dreams and goals and five-year goals, and I'm like, oh shoot, he's not gonna be able to achieve any of those goals. I I am now living for two, right? And so I think that really gave me a sense of urgency and then a sense of perspective, which is there's a whole lot of things that I'm spending time on right now uh and and focus on that just don't matter. And there's only a handful of things that actually do matter. My family, uh, my friends, my faith, like and and this business, which is helping people. It's actually like this at the time I was like, this is the one thing I'm I feel like I'm doing that's like really making the world a better place is helping people write and publish books. And so that was when we kind of doubled down and launched self-publishing school. And ever since then it's just been growing like crazy.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

That's great, man. What a great story. What a great way to, and I commend you for for for leveraging your story and saying, you know, I'm I'm gonna will I'm willing to to step up and rise up on behalf of and in in in in respect of and what the you know for my friend and relationship I had. And you said his book was done and never got a chance to get it published too.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Well, so they actually um I didn't know this, but this is the crazy part of the story is is he had attended one of my random webinars and gotten most of a draft done from that. I didn't even know. And his friends and actually Hunter, who you've talked to on my team, um, Hunter was actually um there when all this happened. Um, and he him and another friend were able to publish Kendall's book um after Kendall passed away. Um so that was kind of like this crazy thing that happened in the midst of all that was that was even more of a sign for me of like, oh man, uh, that is doing something. So let me trim a lot of the fat in my life and focus on that and focus on the things that are most important.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

You mentioned faith a couple minutes ago. How does how does your faith apply and come into play with with with your business and a brand? Because there's a lot of opinions out there. I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a diehard, sold-out, non-negotiable, unshakeable lover of Jesus, but that's just how I roll, you know. Uh, and I talk about it vocally all the time without making people crazy about it. But how does that apply? How does your faith play into um your your everyday business and brand?

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Yeah, I mean, I I think it's tough, man, because I'm I'm in the same boat and and I'm a Christian, and obviously my brother, they're a I would I would say they're most similar to like the fray or something. Yeah, yeah, like a switch foot. Hey, they they they play inspiring music, they're not like quote unquote a Christian band, but definitely you listen to like they're huge on Christian radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and a lot of their their songs um uh have that message, or they will just or will just straight up say it. So I think they're all about going to the places where people would not come to listen to that, sure, but they would listen, but that it's good music, and that's what I think sometimes when you think about like, oh, they're a Christian band, right? Immediately people are like, oh, music probably sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but it's like so that they want to have good music that stands alone that has a great message. And I feel like I have kind of a similar approach with my business, and which I think a lot of the underpinning principles um of the business and how I run the business and all those things are faith elements or things that I, you know, my parents taught me and I learned growing up. Um at the same time, it's I never one big thing for me is and what I'm always kind of cognizant of, and probably too much so, is I don't want to make people feel uncomfortable. Like if people feel like I am judging them because of the way that they choose their life, I think that's not cool. Right. Um, and so so it's like for me, it's this delicate balance of is my faith is very important to me. I embed this in what I'm doing. There's a lot of great principles. And and if anyone wants to ask about it and talk about it, absolutely like I'm totally down. Um, and and and then this has even been interesting on a leadership perspective internally as a company, because that is like, okay, if we're doing like company Bible study or like company things like that, it's like, okay, I've gotten some mixed feedback from mentors and people on that, where it's like, okay, look, you know, the fundamental principles are are there. Um, and it but if if you're making feel people feel uncomfortable being employed at your company because they are not that thing, then I think me personally, I think that's where that's crossing the line of of what I'm comfortable with and how I choose to run my business. Yeah. Um, but I mean, absolutely, like it's a huge part of how I make decisions uh and what we focus on and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

Yeah, I had a buddy tell me I was in, I spent a lot of time in Nashville last year, and I went to go see him. He used to work at a church down here. He now works for um Lifeway Publishing in in Nashville and a small operation. And uh he bought a Tesla recently, but base model. But he's like uh, you know, he's in a band, he's a musician. I'm like, Tesla? And he I'm like, he's like, listen, it it they're not that expensive, like high 30s, like it'll like 38 grand, you can get your like a base model one. He's like, but I was driving this old beater truck and like the thing's almost dying. And he just picked me up for the airport. We're going to get a bite to eat. And he said, um, well, before I make big decisions, I always like to get um a piece from God that I'm making like the right decision. And you know what that piece is, like it just hits you and you're like, we're good. He's like, well, dude, I've seen the car. I was gonna go test drive the car the whole night, and nothing's showing up. And I'm like, where are you, dude? You know, nowhere at all. So finally the guy calls in and to go test drive one of these things, just schedule appointment and like this whole, like, you know, the whole rigor mort. Anyway, so the guy called finally calls, he goes, Yeah, you can come in. He goes, Um, we're about to close, but we can get the we can get the uh test drive done. And he's like, All right, cool. It's like 7:30 at night, he gets in his car, gets to the first stoplight, truck dies. So I said, Man, that was all the stuff. I've been, I've been, I've been implementing that ever since going, listen, if if this is not supposed to happen, just don't allow it to happen. I mean, that's gonna take place anyway. Sometimes we like to be a little, you know, um, you know, a little, you know, go against the grain with that whole process. But I'm in the same uh boat as you. I look at myself as a vehicle uh to the foot of the cross, to whatever that cross may be and whatever that looks like for you, and that I've seen too much, and based on how I was raised, plus life is showing up, I've seen too much to not have faith. Um, and and my faith drives me, and it's a it's a central part of my life. And again, just like you said, I never enforce it upon anybody. If someone asks me, I'm more than happy to chat with them uh about it. And I do run my business with the same type of foundations and and that are on there. But having that principle, and I'm sure this has happened to you too. It's like, hey, remember that one time you sent me that one link? Well, I ended up reading it, and I I'll never forget I had a gig in New York City. One of the speakers was from London, he worked for um for uh Adobe at the time. Super cool dude. We went out, drinks, hung out the whole night, and uh I was posting about we were trying to start a church here about five years ago. Terrible idea. We failed miserably. But um, I said, Hey, listen, you live in London. There's a really cool church called Hillsong London, you should go check it out, right? And he's like, okay, mate, whatever. So, like six months later, he messages me and he goes, Hey man, I actually looked up that place. I went and got a Bible. I'm not gonna give this whole thing a shot, man. Like, I love God. And I'm like, rock and roll, dude. I'm like, holy cow, maybe so. Like, I mean, it's it's it's almost like uh unplanned evangelism because I'm I was raised, I'm a recovered Baptist. So, you know, I'm not into you know, knocking on doors with bad suits and dimples and telling people they're going to hell, you know what I mean? So you've written I love that. Yeah, that I and I I love the fact that uh uh I loved your answer as well. To of course, we everyone loves when we agree with each other, of course, but at the same time, I mean, if you see, have you seen what Pete Vargas is doing lately with this rise up challenge? Yeah, he's a good buddy of mine, yeah. I mean, I I've not personally met him. Tony Grebmeyer, you know, Tony with Ship Offers? Yep, for sure. Yeah, he introduced me.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Coming on his podcast here soon. He's he's um a self-publishing school student as well.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

He's awesome, dude. That guy, man, heart of gold, dude. Absolute heart of gold.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Next time you see him, ask him when he's gonna finish his book.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Oh, I'm gonna text him as soon as we get as soon as we hang up. Um yeah, he introduced me to Pete. I haven't had a chance to actually meet Pete in person, but man, I've gotten a good dose of him over the past week with what he's doing here and just going to show. Another, another, uh, you know, another solid guy, very vocal about his faith and just doesn't care. And uh, which I believe, you know, I'm I'm trying to get rich and take over and not in that order, so that I can have a platform to be able to do similar things, not to be talk about me. I don't care about me. I I just believe that my story is is um one that can you know shift people's mindset and and and change their lives, which we have we've all got one, right? 100%. So speaking of stories, we're gonna get into uh the the most current uh uh matter of affairs here, which is your most recent book. That's a pretty cover. You're you guys are real good at covers. Thank you. Published, it's called The Proven Path. I'm reading it backwards on because of my camera on here. The proven path from blank page to public published author. So we're gonna talk about this in a second, but I want to back up because you wrote six books before this book, so you're clearly lazy.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Uh well, I mean, the unlikely author is what I would call it, like C level English student college dropouts. I always joke that if I can do it, you definitely can. Sure. Uh, and I I I did it in a short amount of time. Um, and and it's a lot of the process we talk about, and a lot of what I teach in that book is the mind map outline write process um to getting your book done. But that was a crazy few years and now, and this is what I love about books is that if you don't want to talk about something for a while, you can just write the book on it. Like I always talk to business owners, and it's like, okay, your first book is often the thing that you're tired of talking about. Right. You write the book on it, and then you never have to talk about it again, you just point to the book and say, get the book. And so um, I still love talking about books and using books to grow business, but at the same time, I'm just gonna keep pointing to published um because I I I think it's the best book I've written, and I want people to learn and understand the methodology. So it's this thing, and just like you know, you were at um it was podcast, yeah, um, and my team is there giving out books. Um, and so that's like I didn't have a choice.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

I I had no choice like take the book and take it.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

It was have you got the book yet? Yeah, that's the question, and that's the conversation starter, right? Right. And then now all of a sudden you're in a conversation with the team, and then a lot of people end up booking appointments with the team and then end up signing up for self-publishing school. So a book is the start of the conversation, I believe. Uh, and and and we use it and give away it, give it away like candy everywhere, um, because it starts the conversation and it it leads to more leads, sales, and referrals for your business.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

I wrote my first book like four years ago, and um, I'll never forget my publisher told me that you this is your new business card. And um he said people never throw away books, they might throw away a CD, they might throw away some white papers, they'll delete your email, the hand sanitizer is eventually gonna run out, people don't use flash drives anymore. So that it will always, and I never forgot that. And then I I learned from my buddy Jack Daly, uh, he's a sales trainer, and Jack said, Um, what you do is you you get a stack of books when you're traveling, and you take a picture with the top sellers in the book in the in the gift shops, you put your book right there, take a picture with it, and be like, holy cow, all over the Miami airport. And then you also leave a few copies. Your students may be able to use this. This is this is golden advice. Take a couple copies of your backpack, leave them in first class, right? You ever met somebody in first class doesn't read, and leave a little note in there that says, Hey, I don't know if you read or not, but I'm back in 17 C and I help people start podcasting in the event you want to chat about your uh chat about this. I'm uh I'm available to. And uh, even if you don't make that connection, you're still like gorilla marketing on there. And to be able to that's awesome. I love that. Hey, we got an eight-hour flight. I don't know if you're interested in podcasts at all, but here's a copy of my book, and I'll be back in 15C with a cocktail. Yeah. That's amazing. But that that was some of the uh best advice that I that I really had uh had ever gotten. Um Jack Nicholson's a fan of the show. I told him that he needs to write a book. You know what he told me?

SPEAKER_01 20:29

I eat breakfast 300 yards from 4,000 Cubans who are trained to kill me. So don't think for one second that you can come down here, flash a badge, and make me nervous.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

All right, take it easy, Jack. Maybe he's gonna be home a lot. Many of you've been home too long. All right, so publish the proven path from blank page to publish author, your most recent project on here. Uh, would it be safe to say if someone read this book, they would have everything they need in order to publish a book in a weekend?

SPEAKER_00 20:55

100%. Yeah, 100%. It's the 10,000-foot view of our process. And so if you're looking for the cliff notes um to get started and to get started quickly, that's the best place to start.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

Yeah, I am uh I'm this is my next book of choice. You read a lot of books. You're quite the reader too, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 21:12

No, a lot, yeah. I and so funny, I mean, going from college dropout, someone who hated reading, hated writing, and was not good at either, to now I run a school, um, self-publishing school, and um read a lot and and and help get a lot of books published. I read about a book a week now because man, I it's like to me, it's a $15 mentor. This is like people always complain about, oh, I can't find a mentor, or how do you find a mentor? It's like the smartest, most successful people on the planet. Most of them have written books and they spent years of their life saying, What's the most helpful thing that I could teach someone? And how do I distill that into something that that someone could get that lesson, learn it very well in a handful of hours? Well, for fifteen bucks, they are now your mentor. So I I I I when I dropped out of school, I said I want to take a college dropouts approach to learning and pretend like I'm still in school for the next two years. And it just kind of caught on. And now I I read all these books and like I'm three books in so far this month. Um and I'll read a coup probably a couple more before the month's up. And and I just love it because you can keep learning, you can keep improving.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

You most definitely can. Well, I've been um I've been in touch with your team. We were chatting before we did before the show started here, and I had just a just a strong interest in in figuring out how we can work together. And I had a conversation with Matt on your team who handles your biz dev stuff, and we had thrown some ideas together. It was funny how it all came together. He replied, I I posted who's hosting a virtual event, trying to find out how I can contribute, how I can speak, or support the process, seeing who's you know who's in the community that's doing virtual events. And he replied, We're looking to sponsor them and podcast too. And I said, Hmm, interesting. So I had added him on Facebook, and I was like, of course he's with he's with self-publishing school, right? So we scheduled a call and he's like, Yeah, man, I'm I'm the new guy in town, but uh handling BizDev, we're working on a few different things, and I so I I had I thrown out a few different ideas and he said, Well, I want you to understand our process on here, so let me get you out what we get. Actually, I got it right here. Actually, those of you listening, you're gonna have to go to the show notes and click on the YouTube video and watch the replay on here. But I got my I got my SPS package here, ladies and gentlemen. This is this this is a package, ladies and gentlemen. This is your passport to book publishing. But let's let's open her up real quick here. I don't even think I opened up, I thumbed through it when it first got here. But um, so um you got some you got some certificates in here.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Yes, future offices. An accountability mechanism. You write your rough draft date. So you can see the blank. My rough draft will be finished by date. Wow. Uh, and then that's something that you can hang up and it's some public accountability for you take it. You can also yeah, you take a selfie and post it online. Yes, that's what I was about to say. If you're bold enough to do that, then now you got public accountability.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Yeah, absolutely. So you got and then it just it you kind of walk everybody through in a couple, you know, a couple flyers, if you will, it just to walk through. And I I really felt like when I actually I did went through these first, and it says, your first 30 days, this is what to expect. Welcome to our team from Chandler. Here's some golden tickets, great marketing technique here. Golden tickets, you get 250, they get 250 off, right? Is that how that works? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Yeah, two-way referral program, yep.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Two-way referral program, and then uh like a journal. Is this a journal on here?

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Oh, yeah, yeah. You're gonna let we just started adding that to the boxes. So that's the yeah, check it out. So that's the uh the 90-day author success journal. So this is a it's a planner journal, whatever you want to call it. Sure. Um, day by day um to make consistent progress to get to achieving your number one author goal in the next 90 days. So maybe that's getting the draft done, maybe that's publishing the book, maybe that's launching a podcast off of your book or whatever that thing is, using the journal to make daily consistent progress.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Love that. I it's beautiful too. It's it's a real nice one, too. It's not I didn't send any over composition notebooks in here, and then post-its. I mean, what are ideas without post-its, right? Mind mapping your book idea. Um, yeah, using the post-its. Got some stickers. Who doesn't want a good sticker? And then you got you got you got the phase one, right? I mean, this right here, look at this. Got the SPS Bible.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

That's the workbook. Exactly. That's what I meant. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

I write my Bible. That's a workbook too. Well, this is awesome. So if you're listening to this or you're watching a video, maybe you're watching one of the marketing promo videos that we posted or sent out on here, and you're thinking, holy cow, this is such a time as this for me to run into this ad or this video or see this, and you're like, I want to publish a book, uh, then be sure to check out the link in the show notes, self-publishing school.com. You can also reach out to me personally. I'd be more than happy to make a personal introduction to the team over uh and Chandler and his team over at SPS on here. But um, I I'm definitely gonna do my next book, it which is it was funny. I was I was telling Matt about this. I uh this was an attempt at my second book. This is a glorified uh brochure. I got the idea from Lewis Howes and Grant Cardone, but then I realized, you know what? I'm not a brochure printer type of guy, and this book needs to have just what it says podcasts suck if you don't have one, a step-by-step guide to launching your podcast today, right? So um stay tuned for that. I'm gonna be a student here. Chandler at North. Awesome. Chandler just found that out. So all right, cool being here. I'm excited. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited too, man. Well, hey, listen, uh, I I I want to respect your time. I know you're doing back-to-back interviews uh today here to get this word to get the good word out about publishing friends. Um, you've been listening to for the past 45 minutes of us chatting to with Chandler Bolt. He's the founder of Self-Publishing School, and he's also the author of Published, How to Publish Your Book in a Weekend. So make sure you pick up a copy wherever books are sold, Amazon. I'm sure you can go to the website and get it. And uh, man, Chandler, great to connect with you, dude. Thanks for carving out some time to hang out.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

Absolutely. I appreciate it, man. We so believe in what you're doing and just podcasts as a mechanism. So, anyone listening, like, I would just highly encourage you to consider a book, consider a podcast. We uh I we were mentioning right before the show, we were we just relaunched the self-publishing school podcast. We now have the Southern Figure Principles podcast, um, which is all about principles that I've learned from scaling and growing the company. Um, so we it's it's funny. We had this podcast that we didn't do anything with for the really long for a really long time, and then we realized it's getting thousands and thousands of downloads a month. Uh, and and we're getting so many customers from it. Um, so I I I just love what you're teaching people um with podcasts and it's something that we're bringing back with the self-publishing school podcast, with the seven finger principles, seven-figure principles. Say that fast five times.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

But well, we're gonna link directly again in the show notes for anything we're referencing that you're maybe listening to right now. You feel like, oh shoot, I don't have a pen. Not to worry, just grab everything in the show notes, which is also known as the description of the podcast wherever you are uh listening to the show. Maybe you're watching it on YouTube or who knows where you ended up finding us on here. Well, Chandler, man, keep rocking and rolling, dude. I am really fired up and encouraged for what's possible with uh the podcast launch lab and self-publishing school. I look forward to forging some sort of relationship with you guys. But um I love the work you're doing and I encourage you to keep it up and come back to the show, will you? Awesome. Well, dude, thank you so much, Sebastian.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Thank you, buddy. Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of the Beyond the Story Podcast. Be sure to appreciate it. If you haven't done so already, make sure you're subscribed to the show. This way you'll get updates as new episodes become available. If you feel so inclined, please leave us a review. Be sure to appreciate it. Signing off from the podcast, launchlab.com studios. We'll talk to you next time.