How To Create A Lifestyle Fitness and Wellness Plan That Works For You - Kris Zizzo - Beyond Failure Fitness

SPEAKER_01 0:04

This is the Beyond the Story Podcast, a show that goes way beyond the story. And now, Sebastian Fris Zizzo, welcome to the show, brother. What's going on, man? Thanks for having me. Hey, thanks for being here, dude. I feel like this is a little like overdue. Even we haven't we've not even known each other almost a year now, but um I feel like it's been significantly longer than that.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

I've I've uh I've gone on about a year now knowing quite a few people who have asked me to be on podcasts. I've been on three. Oh, and I get you I I I don't this is the third one. This is the third one. And the reason why is because like I have so much shit going on that I I get that like decision fatigue, like, is this what I need to be doing? And then I don't do it. So, but yeah, you asked me, and I was like, Yeah, that's the fucking one to get on.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

So let's go. I I appreciate you uh taking the time out of your busy day to hang out with me for a few minutes here. On this show, I like to talk about people's story. It's called Beyond the Story because we go a little bit beyond the story. So I like to back up to the beginning of the story. I want to know pre-He-Man days, okay. I want to know before that light twitched went off where you said, you know what, I'm gonna be a gorilla. When when did when did those you know, how how did this all take place? Sometimes we start, you know, after high school, sometimes it's shortly thereafter that. So let's back up to to you know the beginning of the story, if you will, and we can start wherever you think is is the best place to do that. And then we can just kind of unpack um what brought you to where you're at now, which is just running an extremely successful lifestyle business, helping people uh become healthier and live healthier lifestyles and businesses. So um, yeah, I'm gonna hand things over to you and let's back up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Yeah, man. So um basically I went to school um to be an engineer because I I wanted to do something hard with my life. I come from a family who hasn't had um there's no college graduates, anything like that. Grew up in an area, Modesto in Stockton, California, Esquan, California, which isn't like the best area to be. There's some good spots, but most it's mostly known for being kind of a tough area, right? I had some really tough friends. Um, you know, some you know, my friends had face tattoos. I tell everyone, all my friends had face tattoos, the ones that I selected to be my friends, at least. A lot of them didn't, but uh I kind of grew up like I'm I'm a really nice guy. Um I have a big heart, and I was I grew up around these people that weren't necessarily nice people on paper, right? To me, they were nice, but we were friends. And the way I did things versus the way that they did things, like I was kind of afraid to do the shit that they did, right? I didn't want to get in fights, like I had to get in fights sometimes, but I didn't want to. But like that that sat inside of me. I didn't feel good about it because I was like, I want to be somebody that and I can't get there, right? And I guess in time, you gotta have this like moment where you come to realize who you are, right? This whole time I'm talking to myself like you're a bitch because you won't get in a fight and you're afraid of like getting hurt or whatever, right? And I'm like, no, you're just a fucking good guy, and they're not necessarily good guys, and you're trying to fit in with this shit that you were not, like, stop doing that, right? Realize who you are. You know, I'm not afraid to do certain things, but like I don't want to do that, right? And so I started realizing who I was. Um, when I when I got in college, and I was like, okay, like I guess um getting in trouble is kind of behind me. I need to move forward, I need to challenge myself. When I started challenging myself at school in the gym, all these things, my my life started to develop in a better way, but I had to realize who I was and stop acting like who I wasn't in order to get there, in order to have this flow, right? My thoughts, my speech, and my actions started to align. And um, it was it was in college when I started challenging myself really with my engineering courses that were hard in my junior year, um, with my my physical fitness routine, with just really doing hard things and that that really brought me away from me trying to be a person that I wasn't and focusing on the person that I wanted to become. And um, I guess to kind of wrap that up, that's that's really when I realized like who I was, what my my vision of who I wanted to become was and how I was actually gonna get there. It was it was kind of like uh I I saw who they were with their life, and I was like, I didn't want to be so far away from that. And I can't believe I was trying to be that person for so long. So it's just developed in time, I think.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

So I mean that's great, that's great awareness, even you know, early on, trying to say, Hey, hold on, hold on a second, there's a difference here. And I my I don't really know what the clear difference is, but I'm not doing that. That's what I do know for for sure. Getting that certainty there is definitely uh uh a blessing in disguise. So uh you you became an engineer, you did that for a while, right? And uh and and and then you decided uh there's got to be more. So what what happened there?

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Yeah, so I mean, my my entire life. So I guess backing up to college, um, there was really one significant moment where I separated myself from who I was to who I'm going to become. And that moment was when I went to jail on Mother's Day. I had to call my mom from jail. Um, drinking, fight, went to jail. And they have to identify who you are when you're in jail. So I called my sister. She was scared that I was in jail because when she picks up, it says, Would you like to accept a collect call from Washoe County Sheriff's Department, right? Or whatever it is, Washoe County jail. And she started trying to get the phone to my mom. And my mom said, you know, happy mother's day to me, hung up the phone basically. And I was like, I gotta do some shit different, right? So I separated from who I was trying to be right there, and I still made mistakes, but I aimed myself in the right direction and started aligning myself with who I wanted to become, and that started with fitness. And ever since that moment when I took up fitness in my spare time instead of drinking, it was a game over. Like my entire mindset shifted. I was all in on becoming a better person, and all the other stuff was left behind. And because that pulled me out of a bad way and I saw what it did for myself mentally, I never let it go. And I wanted to teach others that were struggling exactly how to handle their business and how health and fitness impacted me in that way. That was the starting point. There's a lot of different spaces where you got a different levels to this shit, right? But it can start with your health immediately because that's an immediate action you can take to make yourself feel better. And when you do that daily, and it's that that discipline of doing the hard shit daily that helps develop that person, that's where we start. So I wanted to teach that to people. I graduated with my degree in engineering. I felt like I had to do that for a little bit because I we spent some money on it, right? And I did, but it kept pulling me. This health and fitness stuff and helping people kept pulling me away. So after uh about five years of doing that, six years of doing that, I separated from it and I became a fitness professional owning a fitness business the full time.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

So yeah, but you also were like you went to like some championships. I don't know that world clearly. I don't know that world, but professional bodybuilder. Yeah, there we go. There we go.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Yeah, yeah. I got my professional bodybuilding card. Here's the deal, dude. I didn't even want to fucking do that. I didn't even want to become a pro bodybuilder. I had no intentions of ever competing in a bodybuilding competition. What I tell people is I kill myself daily because I have these demons that live with me. And when I want to get rid of these demons, I literally have to kill myself in the gym every fucking day so that those demons will die with me that morning. And when they die with me, I can move on with my day as a free man. So if I go to the gym and I fucking kill myself, I know the rest of the day, I'm gonna have clarity. I did the hardest fucking thing I could do right in the morning, right? Everything else is fucking easy after that. It's so simple, right? And I did that for fucking 10 years straight nonstop. Literally, I have not missed days for 10 years. I ate according to my meal plan for 10 years, and the reason why is because anytime I wouldn't do that, I knew I was deviating from my plan and I was going to go back to that space where demons controlled my life, and I wanted to be in control of my fate. I don't know about you, but that's what I want out of my life. So I had to stick with the plan. And when I stuck with the plan for so long, when I say I got this big, it wasn't because I was trying to get this big, it was because that was a lot of bullshit that I was dealing with, and all that bullshit that I had to deal with was physical that I had to go through in order to deal with it. So this is all problems right here. Every thing that you see on me that's big, all of my muscles, that's just the byproduct of the problems that I had to work through. And I did that physically. And my girlfriend, she was a competitor, she's a professional bikini competitor. So what I did when she was on a diet was followed her because I couldn't eat pizza in front of her or anything like that, right? I couldn't go on date night by myself. So I said, I guess I'll do this competition with you. And by default, I won because of those 10 years of suffering that I put myself through before that. So it wasn't it wasn't a plan, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:12

I love that. Well, you you you have to create leverage on yourself, otherwise, you're never gonna do it, you're never gonna have enough. There, your willpower is not enough, you're not gonna think your way through it, it's just not gonna happen. There has to be some leverage of you know, in the world of personal development, they say, What's at risk for not doing anything and what's at risk? What was at risk for you, or you know, fighting the not having the right combat in place to fight the daily inner demons, but with that solution, knowing it. So working out is not easy at all, and it's painful most times, and no one looks forward to it. Would you say that your daily routine of being able to eat right and get to the gym is number one, you're living as an example for the people you get the opportunity to work with. Is it just kind of ingrained in your head, or do you still have these days where you're like, I don't want to do this?

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Dude, I fucking hate every minute of it. Are you kidding me? I hate it. Look at this shit. I want to show you it's a podcast, so a lot of you can't see this, but check it out. Inside of this bowl, plain white rice and plain chicken. It's fucking plain. There is not, I don't have shit on it to make it taste better. I don't have fucking anything on the side that's like, oh, you get a dessert cookie. I don't have any of that shit. The reason why is because I like discipline, I like challenging myself. If it's a hard diet to stick to, I know that I'm gonna be able to stick to other hard shit, right? Like, I don't like the shit that I do, I don't like fucking collapsing. I told I was I was at the gym this morning with uh with Ryan Stuman, right? We were talking about how leg day was yesterday for me. I ate shit walking down the stairs. I literally ate shit on the bottom step, right? There was a there was an attractive girl walking up and she saw me eat shit and go basically head first into the wall. And like who fucking likes that? Who likes being in so much pain that they're gonna fall and eat shit in front of the wall in front of somebody as they're looking like nobody, nobody, but I still do it daily. I would do it all again and again just because that I saw what it was like on the other side, yeah, with those demons controlling my life. I don't fucking want that, dude. I don't want that, and and the more I challenge myself here every day, the the easier life gets for me.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

I I try to, you know, I try to get some physical activity in every single day. I definitely walk every single day, but I got out of it for like a week and a half. I got back from that cruise gig and you know, those stairs and everything else. I'm like, my legs hurt, but I hadn't worked out, and then my lower back hurts, and then my shoulder hurts, and then I slept wrong. And then by like the Monday, I was just sideways and I'm like, this is all because of choice. You chose not to get on the Peloton when you got back, you chose not to go for a minimum walk, let alone forget squats or all that other stuff. Um, but I the reward is so much better knowing that I did it. But and most importantly, everything stays, I'll be 44 next week. It's uh I I want everything to be loosey-goosey, and it doesn't stay that way unless you're doing something every single day. And then the diet side, I remember yesterday, it was funny. I was gonna text you and tell you this. I normally will go to like chicken kitchen, get like chicken rice and they go like a like a chop chop type deal. Uh, if I go really crazy, I get a sandwich at Jimmy John's. But I try to like keep it light during the day because I if I'm way down, I'm not gonna want to work at all. But yesterday, I go to the grocery store sometimes because they have hot soups in the dil in the deli section. Not that soup's the greatest thing for you, but it beats a burger on the fly or whatever. But all the soup was sold out, and I'm starving and I have 25 minutes before my next call. So I immediately was like, I don't know what to do. I went to Starbucks and grabbed a protein box. I ate two boiled eggs, a bunch of dried up apples, and some what's it called, butter on here. And I'm eating this and I'm like, Zizzo, so proud of me right now. But being able to say, hey, listen, I could have gone across the street and grabbed a pizza or a burger real quick or had something delivered on here. I don't want to feel like shit. And I also want, you know, to know that. So I mean, like the meal prepping too has been, you know, again, chicken and rice. If you can't make chicken and rice once a week, you need to evaluate some other areas of your life where that shows up. So I've told myself going wrong. Right, exactly. So uh again, it's all choice, it's decision choice, it's a very, very powerful, powerful component uh in our life.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

You're gonna you're gonna like this since you're turning 44. A recent research paper that I read took people who haven't exercised or dieted up until the age of 44 and had them get on an exercise and diet routine until the day they died. It's a compilation of a lot of research, hundreds and hundreds of people, right? Over the past 60 years. Or yeah, 60 years, I think is what it was. And this data shows that the person at 44 who started exercising and dieting right added an average of 12 years to their life versus those that did not. So if you want to live 12 years longer for your family that's reliant on you, if you want to create that fucking generational wealth that everyone talks about, and you have 12 more years to do it, regardless of the additional time. What about the quality between now and then? What about your level of energy between now and then, right? You like you're you're turning 44, right? You're gonna like that stat because that's directly applicable to you, right? Your level of effort in life, what you're gonna get out of it.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

So well, you know, you look good, you feel good as well, too. And people that and people show up that way. I've I've been getting that a lot lately. I still got my homer gut a little bit, so I don't know that I'm but I well, I'll run into people and they're like, You look great, and I'm like, You don't notice it, man. You don't notice it because you see yourself every day. Correct, correct people do right, exactly. And I not that that is the end all end all, but usually, especially with somebody that you care about and that cares about you actually saying that, say, Hey, I think you look great. I mean, I even look back and to the days where I just didn't care. Um, and I've never really been obesely overweight. I think I've been definitely a little chunky monkey here and there, but um, you know, it it doesn't get easier the older that we get to shed the weight or to get into shape and all that. So the quicker we figure it out now, you know, the better off we are. You know, being on the road a lot too does not help, but I kind of told myself, you know, these are all just excuses. You're in a hotel everywhere you go, and every hotel has a gym. So it's you and your bullshit excuses, it's not the circumstances, or I had a flight, or I had a you know, whatever. Who was I talking to the other day that said, um, I forget who I was talking to, one of kind of one of your one of your one of your you know muscle building folks, but it was I forgot I forget who it was. Somebody somebody in apex maybe.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

I if it's apex person, I don't know. I was gonna bring up Jacob Stoller, who I don't know, he's a he's an apex guy, right? This guy is built like a middle linebacker for the NFL. He's fucking massive. Oh, it was Bonnie.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Dr. Chalmers. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

It was it was the man, yeah. He told man, that guy blew my mind, bro. I had never thought in a world and in a I never thought in a million years I would own a coffee enema kit. Here we are, folks. Yeah, but uh yeah, that's in I'm like, that's a thing. Um, so it was like this testosterone and THC, two things they say are the worst for you, are the absolute best things for you. I was like, Well, we got I got one of them on lock. That's it. Sign me up for the other, I guess. Right, exactly. He would he was the one to say that if you know most people get up in the morning, like, I gotta go work out and you're fighting your way. Like that morning time is the the freshest you will ever be, your brain, your mind, wherever it is, to utilize that to go like expend all your energy is ridiculous. The best time he said is between 11 and 2 when that potential crash could come at late morning, high noon, you know, early afternoon. You get in there and plow through a workout at lunchtime instead of lunch on here. Your entire day is gravy. I was like, I'm gonna get back to you about that. But um, I didn't even think about that whole process. I'm like, well, we might just start working out during the day.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

Um, yeah, you can you can identify, identify yourself like what you're what your actual use of time looks like, where your energy levels are at, with what's your mental capacity to stay focused on a certain task for any given period of time. Jordan Peterson talks about this a lot. How long could you stay focused without breaking your concentration? Right. And then you can go through three iterations of that typically without having to take an extended break, right? You may go, you may go for, I don't know, let's just say you can go an hour and 20 minutes, right? Then you got to take a little break, 10 minutes. Then you go another hour 20, take another 10-minute break, you go another hour 20. You need to take an actually a significant break between that period of time and your next interval of doing that hard focused work. And that's just like what Doc is saying. Like, that breaks up his day. I've talked to him about this before. And he's like, if I don't go to the gym, like my office knows it. They don't like being around me, you know, they don't like that shit. Yeah, so he's he's optimized his day around that routine. I kind of couldn't because when I was in the construction space, you can't just leave and in uh in the engineering space and go to fucking gym for two hours in the middle of the day, right? Yeah, um, but I would like to get back to that because I think there's a lot of truth to what he's saying.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

How many days a week do you have to work out?

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Me or the average person? The average person. The average person should do about 150 to 200 minutes of exercise per week. So here's the thing: if you're obese, you should do more frequent exercise in smaller intervals. I would say 30 minutes a day, five days a week. One, you're creating the habit. Two, if you're obese, you have insulin defects in your body that need to be managed first. That means your body can't take the energy that it needs from the proper places because of insulin. Insulin, insulin allows you to tap into your fat, right? It allows you to burn. It basically opens up a cell for any energy source to go into the cell and be burned and utilized as energy, right? So if you want to utilize fat or if you want to utilize um blood glucose in a certain way, the normal person can tell their body what to do, what they're needing, right? By how what their oxygen output is. This is science-y, but getting back to what I'm saying here is somebody that needs to establish the routine and get that insulin defect issue handled first, 150 minutes, which would be 30 minutes five times a week. Okay. But if you're the average person that's just beginning, three days a week is gonna be good for you. I would say 20 minutes of cardio sessions and 40 minutes of exercise, 30 to 40 minutes of exercise. And if you do that three days a week, then you hit some intermittent walking throughout the week, you get your steps in, you get one of those watches, get 10,000 a day, you're gonna be fucking dialed. That's really all you need, you know. So strength training is a must, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Yeah, I well, I got that from one of Stuman's episodes. He trained Mr. Olympia, and it was like he had told him, Hey, Ryan, don't ever stop lifting, uh, because it creates pressure, and the pressure is what strengthens you your your your tendons and everything else that keeps everything, you know, strong and gives you longevity too. So I thought about that too. Plus, I'm 44, testosterone is diminishing. Uh, from what I understand, you don't get it back. So you gotta you gotta figure out some way to create uh, you know, and and you know, leg day. Uh speaking of leg day, which is miserable, but it's unavoidable. So I've been starting with the squats, starting to do 60. I'll go on a walk, I'll do 20 uh 20 squats every, you know, I walk on a 35, 40 minute walk. So every 15 minutes I'll do I'll end up doing 60 squats total and won't be able to walk for a week after that. Um and then the the Peloton too is the Peloton has been has been great. Um, but it's it's cardio too. It's you know, it's just you know it's just cardio. So I know I can't do, but I love walking. I mean, hello.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

Can I hit you with a recommendation for your Peloton? Yes. Okay. Do your normal how long do you normally go in a cardio session? 20 minutes usually on the bike. Do do 15 to 20 minutes with your heart rate around 135 beats per minute. Okay. There's there's a different way that your body processes the the fuel sources that it's that it's looking or it's it's grabbing at different fuel sources, right? So it could be fatty acids that it's oxidizing. So you're gonna burn that fat at a lower O2 output. For the sake of this conversation, we'll just call it a heart rate that's lower, right? So if you go at 135 beats per minute, you're really gonna like focus on getting that uh that fat burning effect, whereas the um the higher output stuff, the interval stuff is going to utilize more of the carbohydrates, the faster responding fuel sources, right? At the end of the day, the high interval stuff is the right way to burn more calories and burn more fat. It's better for cardiovascular health too, but it's not sustainable for long periods of time, right? For somebody that's new to this shit. So I would encourage you to keep your heart rate at about 135 beats per minute for 20 minutes, 15 to 20 minutes. Then for five minutes, turn up the fucking steam, turn up the resistance on the thing, and actually pump out some pedaling that's hard resistance on your on your legs and your quads because that's gonna be more like a strength training session, but on your Peloton. And if you do that regularly, it's gonna be sustainable, but you're gonna notice some serious definition in your legs start to happen. You're gonna have the ability to turn that resistance up more and more every time. It's gonna be it's gonna be really good when you supplement that with the squats that you're doing. Okay, your squats will get easy.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

That was my question. I uh Alex Toussaint's my favorite instructor on Peloton. The guy's an absolute beast, but he has no problem getting that bike into the 50s and 60s. And we, you know, we're gonna, as he would say, we're gonna work today, y'all. We showed up to work. Um I'm like, so my legs, I can't barely feel my legs when I'm done with one of those rides. What's the difference between and squats?

SPEAKER_00 22:52

The difference between the Peloton and the squats, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

I mean, because my legs are burning, but my legs burn when I do squats too. Are there is there is different impacts happening?

SPEAKER_00 23:00

It depends. It depends on how the the orientation of your legs and your feet and how you're pushing, what muscles you're utilizing. You're gonna be when you're doing squats, you're gonna be using a lot more of your uh depending on where your body positioning is and everything, and how you're performing the squat, you're gonna be getting some glutes and some hamstrings in there as well as your quads, right? But your ass is on the seat on that Peloton. If you stand up and pedal, it's gonna be a little bit of a different story, right? So you should do that, but you're gonna be utilizing your your calves and your quads a lot more on the Peloton and your hamstrings too, right? Um, so there's there is no you're effectively using your muscles and you're burning your muscles. It's it's the both are good, both are good, both are doing the same thing in theory, right? You're just targeting muscles in different ways. I would encourage you to do your squats like you normally do, get that Peloton going, and then once you feel like your squats are getting easier, swap those out with some lunges or add lunges on top of that. Yeah, because now you're now you're stepping up with one leg, and that's a whole different whole different story, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Yeah, I usually do like I'll do like uh 15 or 20 pound dumbbells, and I'll start all the way down and go all the way up and then ding and then all the way with those are those feel great. I mean, yeah. Um uh and then and then I also the Peloton weights are you know, I mean, I kill those one pounders. You wouldn't, you should see me with those things, but I'll do a hundred were they the pink ones? Yeah, no, they're they're they're black with the pellet with a little Peloton sign on them. I like to keep it as masculine as possible here. I'm not holding the pink dumbbells, uh, but um, but but I'll sit there and do it until I can't. I'm about to drop the things. I mean, obviously you're doing like you know, 50 reps, you know, Adam, but yeah, I'm already on the bike. I'm like, I'll do, I'll do, I'll do curls. Like, I don't know, they're gonna fall off, and then I'll do these while I'm on the bike, too. Yeah, I'm trying to get rid of these boobs.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

So that was you know so so. Let me tell you something here. Yeah, I I like what you're doing, you're creating good muscular endurance, but if you want to get rid of any man titties, you're gonna have to do some heavier weight. Okay, it's just a fact, right? You're you're trying to build muscle. Push-ups, fuck yeah. Do a bunch of push-ups, okay. Um, get get heavier, get bands, resistance bands, right? Yeah, got them. And get on the ground. If you get those looped bands, the full loop, not the one with the handles, but the full loop. Yeah, you put that shit around your back and push up this way, or you can put it around your back and then get your hands on the ground and do push-ups with resistance.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

What what here's here's the problem. You wonder how to use those. Yeah, dude, we gotta meet up sometime. I'll fucking run you through.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Oh, we're doing it. Well, I'll I'll I get in real early the day before the live. So if we can figure it out, I get in like I land at like 11, so I'm down to just get completely just banged up in the chat.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

I'm gonna fucking I want everyone to come out with us because I'm gonna fucking put you guys through some shit. I'm not gonna torture you guys, that's not what I'm about, but I am gonna help you see how to level up your game big time. Just a couple of switches, right? Let me explain something to you though. This is important, and uh, this probably isn't even what this podcast is supposed to be about, but here we go.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

That's what it's about. It's about Zizzo and wherever the conversation takes us. But I mean, I podcast because I want to learn shit, and that's exactly what we're doing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

There we go. So let me tell you, you're creating a lot of good muscular endurance for yourself, right? You can go long periods of time with doing your fucking one-pound things here and your curls here, right? You can do 50 reps. That's a lot of fucking reps for curls, but you're not building new muscle tissue, you're not growing your muscle tissue. The reason why is because you're not fracturing the muscle, you're creating endurance, so you're exhausting it of all of its energy sources, which is good. That's like a marathon runner. Look at the marathon runner, they're skinny, they're lean, they can go forever, right? Look at the sprinter, they're jacked. Why? Because it's short sprints of hard fucking shit that you can't sustain for long periods of time. So if you want to get rid of your titties, you got to grow muscle. If you want to grow muscle, you got to have resistance, right? And if you're gonna have resistance, it's gonna be really fucking hard and you probably won't be able to do more than 15 reps. Okay, and if you but if you do that, your whole body is gonna tighten up. These gals that we have on our team that we coach, they don't want to do strength training because they don't want to get big. And when we tell them, hey, you know that flabby shit you have under your arm and that shit that ties your fucking lat to your arm right here, that bat wing. If you want that to go away, they call it the bat wing. I love it. If if you want that to go away, you have to do heavy weights and build muscle. The muscle that you talk about you don't want, that's what you need to do for it, and it'll go away, it'll tighten up your skin, you know. Right. And for the for what it's worth, too, because some people like these stats and they like to know where they're going with this, what the end goal is. When you strength train, it's not about having muscles, it's really not, and it's not about a look and it's not about bragging about how much you can lift, it's none of that stuff. What it's truly about is when you're 70 years old, 75 years old, do you want to be the old man or old lady that's asking the neighbor for help, picking the groceries up out of your out of your back of your car and walking them into your house? Or do you want to be the one that's able to do it yourself? Because I'll tell you right now, power from lifting, power lifting, power is the act of taking that heavy grocery bag or that carton of milk and lifting it up out of the back seat. That requires power. Strength is the act of carrying that from your car into your house without having to set it down and asking for air, right? Or letting it slip out of your hand. That's strength. So if you train for power and strength now, when you're 70 years old, you're not gonna have to ask anybody for help unless you want to be in a home, which I don't. No, I'm gonna start training now for power and strength, regardless of who I am. If I'm if I'm an old lady or if I'm a if I'm a 20-year-old, you know, jacked kid, I'm training for power and strength right now so that I don't ever have to go into the home. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

I love that. All right, we're getting a workout in. I'll be there in first week in a first week of March. I'm literally getting off the plane going right to you. So let's gonna get bumped with diesel. Yeah, you're gonna have Sebastian the Jack's podcaster. We're gonna have to be I'll be arm wrestling posting in no time. Let's go, Jack. Got you. I got you, dog. Uh all right. Well, we're we're almost out of time here as we wrap things up. Let's help people better understand exactly what you do for people, what your business does, how you can help people, and where they can find more information about all that.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

We what we do is we we radically transform your life from the inside out. And we do this through health and fitness, just like I said at the beginning of the podcast, I changed my life not because I was wanting to get big and jacked and look good. I changed my life through health and fitness because I had those demons that I was fighting and I needed to get those away from me, right? And so this is how I did it, and this is how it works for everybody. And what we do is we help you get all of that cloudy shit out of the way that's clouding your vision by putting the tools in front of you that are gonna help you build confidence and resilience, along with the good physique, which also leads to more confidence, right? We're gonna help you reach your health and fitness goals, but more importantly than that, we're gonna create a sustainable lifestyle for you that you can maintain because this shit is not that hard the way that we do it. It's hard when you have fad diets, it's hard when you have people giving you wrong information, it's hard when you have you know people trying to push supplements on you that don't work. But with us, we create sustainability. It starts with the mind, it ends with the body, and it's and it ends with a good plan that you can keep going forever. So, especially if you're a mom, if you're dad, if you really want to have that presence in your family and be the person that your kids are counting on you to be, we're here to teach you that. If you're a CEO, executive, really want to level up and keep that focus and challenge yourself and build resilience and be the best version of yourself. That's what we do, man. And we really care about the people over anything else. So it's I've been told a lot of times our price is too low. But for me, yeah, how does all that work?

SPEAKER_01 30:50

So I and fill me in because I I was talking to um Greg Michaelman, been a client for a long, long time, and uh at the last flying, he was like, Oh, can't have that, can't have that, can't have that. I got an app, I got Zizzo telling me. So he was he and he's jacked about it, excited. Everybody that works for me is excited to do it. So, how does it all work?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Um, so what happens is we get with you, uh, you fill out a form. When you fill out your form, we ask all these questions about you. We get a the background of your life, what are your goals? What are you currently doing? Where are you trying to go? Right. Typically, where everyone's trying to go is just a fraction of where we're gonna take them because we know better than anyone that we can get you there and exceed those goals, right? But we give you a custom meal plan, custom training program. We have um twice a month, one is for the ladies only, one is for the men's only, and then one is for the whole group. So any individual will have two Zoom calls per month with us and executives. There's a one-on-one coach that you have, so it's very exclusive to you. You build a relationship with your coach, they are fully invested in you and you alone, right? And they modify your plans as needed based on your goals. We also educate you through the process. So when you leave the nest and you're no longer with us, you can keep doing this stuff on your own. And we have a ton of resources that we provide to you and PDFs and um videos that are going to help you sustain this lifestyle forever because our goal isn't to keep you on our team and us be your crutch for a lifetime. It sounds like a great business plan, and it is, and our business plan sucks, but our goal truly is to let you go, right? We want you to do this on your own. And we hope that when you have a more ambitious goal, you come back to us or you refer people to us because you enjoyed your experience so much. But when it comes down to it, man, it's really we have put together one of the most supportive and badass weight loss groups that there is in the world. There is nothing but positivity radiating through our group chats that we have inside of our app, which is where we all communicate. And people have high, high levels of success with us because the focus isn't on your fitness goal. You guys, everyone has to realize it's way bigger than that. It's way bigger than that. It's you living the life that you want to live forever, right? So that's that's what we do, that's what we teach you.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

I love it. Well, we'll be sure to include a link to Chris's website. If you're listening right now, you're like, I want the link right now, Chris. Where where can they find more information about you?

SPEAKER_00 33:11

You guys can go to beyond failurefitness.com and find us there. All you got to do is fill out a form. It's a non-committal form that you fill out. It's right at the top of the page. And that just says, Hey, I'm ready for a conversation to see if you guys are right for me and I'm right for you. And and we'll get in touch with you there. We'll text you or we'll call you, whatever you want.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

So, do it. If you're thinking about it right now, you're like, wait a second, this sounds like something I need to check out. That's more than enough reason to go to the link in the description of this podcast episode. Click on it, schedule a call, just see what's possible. You might actually like it. You never know. Chris Sizzo, it's a privilege. Sebastian, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 33:43

You let me interrupt you real quick. How about this? Do you uh maybe we can give you a special link that discounts people because they came through your podcast? Yeah, they want to save some money. Cool. Yeah, we we'll do that. I'll I'll send you a link for that and they can they can get that discount. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Hey, see what we that's what we do here. We deliver value discounts. We're going beyond above and beyond here on the Beyond the Story podcast. Chris Zizzo, it's a privilege to call you a friend. It's a privilege to be able to have conversations like this where I'm able to tell your story and learn more about you and your business. Uh, we're just getting started, my brother. We were talking about this before at the beginning of the interview, and I look forward to that. This is what life is life is all about, the relationships that we have in it, but more importantly, the people that we get to do life with. And it's it's just an extreme pleasure. I'm looking forward to just enduring some pain in the gym uh when I come back to Dallas uh on there and continuing to to further our our friendship uh as well. And please keep doing what you're doing. It clearly matters. You're making an impact uh in in the lives of people you get to work with, but you're also most importantly, you're making an impact to those around you by the life that you live. And that is what it's all about. That right there is the special sauce. If there is one when it comes to life, so thank you for what you do. Thank you for your heart and your work and what you do. And man, I can't wait for whatever's for us, my brother.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

It's gonna be good stuff, whatever it is, man. I appreciate you having me big time.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Absolutely, man. We'll have to do again sometime soon, ladies and gentlemen. Chris motherfucking zizzo, yo. I wasn't K to the Zizzo. Can we say that was probably copyrighted already? K to the Zizzo. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, we're taking it over then. All right, man. I'll see you in the gym next week. Thanks so much, man. You got absolutely, absolutely. Until next time, friends. Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of the Beyond the Story Podcast. Be sure to appreciate it. If you haven't done so already, make sure you're subscribed to the show. This way you'll get updates as new episodes become available. If you feel so inclined, please leave us a review. Be sure to appreciate it. Signing off from the podcast, launchlab.com studios. We'll talk to you next time.